Chat Archive 1/13/2020 - The Charlie Chan Family Home

Hawaii_Steve: With the family’s permission, I will add a little “local history” to the Honolulu stock shots in our feature film for tonight. At the 40m MARK, we see downtown Honolulu. If you folks are interested.

Rush: How has the new year treATED YOU THUS FAR, gs?

Matt1: Hello GS!

Godwinshelley2: Wow sounds good HS

Hawaii_Steve: Buenas Tardes Ms. Godwinshelly.

Godwinshelley2: We had windows replaced today – for a couple that had fogged up – and the weather cooperated

Rush: 4 1/2 minutes…

Godwinshelley2: Hello HS

Godwinshelley2: I’m cued

Godwinshelley2: Glad they have subtitles on this one

Mike n Rachel in DC: Would love the Hawaii Steve tour!

Godwinshelley2: It is WELL WORTH the trip

Hawaii_Steve: Bueno. Gracias.

Godwinshelley2: And check out the Honolulu Police Dept museum

Mike n Rachel in DC: Mike: I’m trying to entice Rach to a “Chan” tour of Hawaii.

Godwinshelley2: Not crowded

Hawaii_Steve: Honolulu’s Chinatown is very dangerous these days. Lots of shootings.

Godwinshelley2: Lots to see without going to Chinatown

Godwinshelley2: And DC has it’s own share of those anyways

Rush: I am cued now and ready…

Rush: 2 1/2 minutes to go…

Mike n Rachel in DC: I’d love to spend a decadent day or two at the Royal Hawaiian

Len Freeman has joined this room

Godwinshelley2: Hello Len – I thought I chased you away

Len Freeman: Ah… safely returned

Rush: If needed, we have our feature available above via a link.

Matt1: wb Len!

Hawaii_Steve: Godwinshelley is correct. Royal HI Hotel, Police Museum, Kailua Beach.

Rush: “Eran Trece”

Rush: 2 minutes…

Hawaii_Steve: Standing by. [Marching footsteps]

Rush: 90 seconds…

Len Freeman: Hi GWS… no your presence is always a welcomer

Rush: 15 seconds…

Rush: 60 seconds…Sorry

Mike n Rachel in DC: *adjusts cape*

Rush: 50 seconds…

Hawaii_Steve: Rush, too much Tigar Tea.

Rush: Feeble brain at work…

Rush: 40 seconds…

Mike n Rachel in DC: *Gentlemen, Start your engines*

Rush: 30 seconds…

Rush: 25…

Cdirus: I was all set to push start.

Rush: 20…

Rush: 15…

Rush: 10…

Mike n Rachel in DC: *flicks Bic*

Rush: 5…

Mike n Rachel in DC: *lights fuse*

Rush: GO!!!

Matt1: <GONG!>

Rush: Title…

Rush: Music…

Godwinshelley2: Monkeys

Rush: Credits…

Mike n Rachel in DC: Manuel Arbo…

Rush: This was probably the same music used in “Charlie Chan carries on.”

Rush: Nice GONG, Matt!

Hawaii_Steve: This is a very clean print.

Rush: “Scotland Yard”

Matt1:

Len Freeman: Argo does a great job in this… should’ve done more…

Rush: Inspector Duff.

Rush: I agree, Len.

Rush: Too bad that there were not more.

Rush: “Carrumba!”

Godwinshelley2: Oland photo

Rush: Yes!

hounder: time?

Rush: So, in a way, Oland is in this film!

Hawaii_Steve: Cute photo of Chan family

Godwinshelley2: Oland was in a 1933 film on TCM this week

Rush: 2:20

Rush: 2:30

Hawaii_Steve: What film?

Rush: 2:40

Rush: Which one, GS?

hounder: thanks for the time check. my window froze and i missed the gong

Godwinshelley2: I’m trying to look it up

Matt1: <tin can>

Rush: AH!

Mike n Rachel in DC: Don’t know, but this could turn out to be a …. Murder Cruise…

Rush: TYSM…Matt…

Rush: Are you back on track, Hounder?

Godwinshelley2: Before Dawn

Len Freeman: time?

Rush: 4:00

Rush: 4:10

Len Freeman: got it

Rush: 4:20

Rush: Very good!

Rush: Stones.

Rush: In the “remake,” it was dimes.

Mike n Rachel in DC: 13

Rush: As in “There Were…”

Cdirus: No!

Rush: “No, no no, NO!”

Rush: Senor Loff-TONE

Mike n Rachel in DC: Eren trece…ahorita hay doce

Rush: Si.

Godwinshelley2: The actor playing the inspector – is he in other Chan English films

Mike n Rachel in DC: Dropping like moscas

Rush: No.

Godwinshelley2: That is one WIDE hat band

Godwinshelley2: The inspector looks so familiar – like I had seen him in other films

Rush: Rafael Luis Calvo: Inspector Duf

Mike n Rachel in DC: *cough*

Rush: (Duff)

Godwinshelley2: Rush – did you see Yahoo was closing down Groups – didn’t this used to be a Yahoo group?

Rush: Yes, GS!

Rush: Long ago, Yahoo Groups began to decline.

Godwinshelley2: So if you want any of that archive material – you might need to download it or whatever you need to get it

Matt1: Many years ago

Rush: GS, I could not even access it anymore!

Matt1: I thought NightWolf ran that group

Mike n Rachel in DC: The Elders of the Chan Clan remember this. It is called the Dark Time.

Rush: She did as as we switced to this site.

Rush: Just to keep it rolling.

Rush: It was still at least another outlet, and could offer an “emergency” Chat Room if needed!

hounder: yahoo groups were useful at the time but social media evolved beyond them

Matt1: Yes, I remember both running

Rush: it was fun in the days when they had VOICE CHAT available!

Rush: yes, Hounder.

Rush: Max minchin and sadie.

Rush: Note how his abrasive personality “evolves’ as the film progresses.

Mike n Rachel in DC: Oh dear.

Mariann has left this room

Rush: Lost Mariann.

Mike n Rachel in DC: Eran once?

Matt1: tic-tac?

Rush: 🙂

Mike n Rachel in DC: *whew* back up to doce

Rush: amyl nitrate – A vasodilator that is sometimes used to treat angina pectoris.

Rush: Carmen Rodriguez: Señora Rockwel

Rush: Assembled suspects…

Hawaii_Steve: Are there photographs of “Ch Chan A

Hawaii_Steve: Chan Carries on?

Hawaii_Steve: If so, do the sets match the sets of the Spanish version?

Rush: OH!

Rush: There are at least some matches.

Rush: Just to announce in advance, and also to seek one or two to be here to sub for me, on Monday, February 3, I will be out of town and unable to be here.

Rush: ctually, I will be on a plane returning home while the Chat is happening.

Rush: So I will not even be able to check in.

Hawaii_Steve: Can we assume, like “Dracula” (1931), the Spanish Chan was shot on the same sets as the English?

Rush: SO…if anyone can take over that night, it would set my mind at ease!

hounder: i’m sorry rush, i just can’t count on my ability to be here anymore.

Rush: I think that would be generally right, steve,

Godwinshelley2: I might be available

Godwinshelley2: Remind me as we get closer

hounder: i try but….

Rush: I can tell you that the telegraph office we see later was exactly the same.

Rush: Chan’s office looks like it was the same.

Rush: TYSM, Hounder and GS!

Rush: I will definitely remind.

Hawaii_Steve: Gracias amigo.

Rush: 🙂

Rush: Ana Maria Custodio: Elen Potter
Juan Torena: Dick Kennaway

Rush: Now we’re getting somewhere!

Rush: “Niza” (“Nice”)

Hawaii_Steve: That looked like a roll of 35mm film pulled out of briefcase.

Rush: I also think that some of the shots, such as the gun being fired, were probably from the Oland film.

Rush: Stock footage, too.

Rush: Yes, Steve.

Rush: The Minchins.

Rush: Sadie Minchin is called “Peggy” in this one.

Rush: In “Charlie Chan carries On,” Marjorie White was Sadie Minchin. We see her also in “The Black camel.”

Hawaii_Steve: In 10 minutes, we will see lots of stock footage of Honolulu.

Godwinshelley2: Is that rear projection while folks drive?

Rush: Moral: ALWAYS give important information NOW!

Rush: Don’t wait till later!

Rush: Later never comes!

Rush: Yes, Steve!

Mike n Rachel in DC: Well, at least it removes the motivation to “silence” the witness

Matt1: <lata>

Rush: Steve, tell us if you recognize the rear-projected footage as Chan and Duff drive in Honolulu.

Rush: Any recognizable locations?

Hawaii_Steve: GS,yes. Bishop St. in downtown. And you were there.

Rush: Stock train departure footage…

Rush: Ship…

Rush: Travel location sequence…

Rush: Hong Kong street performers…

Rush: Funny dialogue here.

Hawaii_Steve: Great historical footage from the past.

Rush: June 22 is sarah’s birthday.

Rush: This scene is in the Oland version.

Rush: You can see ALL the “Charlie Chan Carries On” images so far available at our scriopt recreation of this movie.

Hawaii_Steve: Thank you Rush.

Rush: I alsi incorporated some things from this film that match the script.

hounder: thankyou for all your work rush

Rush: We can recognize some familar musical accompaniment that we hear in other Chan films.

Rush: “We’ve got a book at home…”

Rush: “Mer..CI!”

Mike n Rachel in DC: Saucy.

Rush: Dick Kennaway is reluctant to acknowledge her because she is a bit wealthy.

Rush: Doen’t want her to think he’s after her money.

Rush: “Jim Maynard!”

Rush: Gets interesting here…

Mike n Rachel in DC: Crazy American lady

Rush: 🙂

Rush: That narrows it to FIVE…

Rush: Now she’s in danger!

Rush: The telegraph office.

Rush: same set here.

Mike n Rachel in DC: That was close

Rush: TOO close!

Mike n Rachel in DC: beginning of another Chan

Hawaii_Steve: Okay, here we go. Waikiki, then Bishop Street in Downtown Honolulu, financial center of Hawaii. Two of the buildings are standing today. On the left, Alex-Baldwin Building. On the right, Dillingham Transportation building.

Godwinshelley2: Finally – someone who looks out for window attacks

Matt1: Wahooooo!

Rush: We finally arrive in Honolulu…

Matt1: CC!

Rush: Surfers…like in “The Black camel.”
Chan at home.

Mike n Rachel in DC: Ah…right

Len Freeman: Duke Honomca on surfboard? (sp)

Hawaii_Steve: May be same footage.

Mike n Rachel in DC: Looks very similar…

hounder: a different style of chinese dress shown here

Rush: I think so, Steve.

Hawaii_Steve: Not Duke Kahanamoku.

Len Freeman: Excuse my spelling HS

Rush: In the script for this movie, there was originally supposed to be that same breakfast with the family scene that appears in “The Black camel.”

Rush: The street, steve?

Hawaii_Steve: On the left is Alexander Bauldwin Building now.

Rush: TY, Steve!

Hawaii_Steve: Transist Bulding on right.

Rush: Love it!

Hawaii_Steve: Turn onto Queen Street.

Mike n Rachel in DC: Amazing tour. Thanks Steve!

Rush: TYSM, Steve, for the tour!

Len Freeman: TYSM

Mike n Rachel in DC: Chan has a BIG office!

Matt1: Did they make other Chans in Spanish with this actor?

Len Freeman: They should have

Rush: Steve and I were able to visit the old HPD office!

Hawaii_Steve: Just a quick tour of downtown. One can actually put it back together today. 1931 to 2020. Amazing.

Rush: I will not forget that day!

Rush: Amazing…YES!

Rush: Duff is shot!

Godwinshelley2: What is the death rate in Chan’s office – he seems to lose people there regularly

Hawaii_Steve: Chang Apana’s was not as big as Charlie Chan’s office. Apana shared his office with other police detectives.

Rush: Not the safest place, what with that open ground floor window!

Hawaii_Steve: GS, but never the kids. Oh, pop.

Len Freeman: Pretty nervy to shot thru a police statin window though

Godwinshelley2: Thank goodness!!

Rush: They leave Duuf on the floor…

Mike n Rachel in DC: Wait…wait…hold the can!

Godwinshelley2: And Charlie seems to get his letter mail delivered there and not home – since that one film with the kids going through his mail to get the report card

Mike n Rachel in DC: er…never mind…

Rush: Hold it, still….

Mike n Rachel in DC: Tell him that Charlie Chan Carries On…and …Eran Trece!

Rush: “Charlie Chan Carries On”

Len Freeman: CC is carrying on….

Rush: Mrs. Chan speaks…JAPANESE!

Rush: She will soon say, “Sayonara.”

hounder: an odd mistake for the directors to make

Mike n Rachel in DC: Sayonara? Did Charlie marry a Geisha or something?

Godwinshelley2: Even when Chan is not gone – still listen to your mother

Rush: Yes, Hounder.

Hawaii_Steve: Cute scene with the Chan kids.

Mike n Rachel in DC: Listen to your mother…even when she speaks the wrong Asian language

Rush: “Gracias…muchisima.”

Rush: “Maxito.”

Len Freeman: I note this in my course… at this time we didn’t really distinguish between asian peoples… so Sayonara was fine… and of course the first sound Charlie is Korean

Rush: (“Maxie”)

Cdirus: I was reading Death on the Nile by Christie – and they were interviewing the ships passengers in the smoking lounge too.

Godwinshelley2: Oh no – I signed up for the Murder Cruise by mistake!!

Rush: Yes, Len!

Rush: GS: 🙂

Len Freeman: Only later when it gets important for WW II coming on reasons, we start to make a more clear distinction

Mike n Rachel in DC: OH…so it was more like *generic Asian language*

Godwinshelley2: Was the Mrs Chan actress Chinese or Japanese?

Hawaii_Steve: Actors playing Chan kids are not credited on IMDb. Rush, do you know about them?

hounder: ok that makes sense len

Rush: “Gracias……muchisima”

Mike n Rachel in DC: “Talk will not cook rice”

Len Freeman: tysm

Rush: Got the glove and gun.

Godwinshelley2: Would like the window-gun concession for this film

Rush: 🙂

Rush: The Three Wise Monkeys clue.

Godwinshelley2: Tip they guy, Charlie!

Rush: “Hear nothin’, see nothin’, shut up”

Hawaii_Steve: The “gun through the widow” routine has been a number of times in Chan Films. I recall a scene featuring Keye Luke.

Rush: Yes, Steve.

Godwinshelley2: And the usual – set up a Chan shadow for the killer to shoot

Godwinshelley2: a notable spin on the window shooting

Rush: Itr sort of happens in “Charlie Chan’s Secret,” though from a hidden opening.

Rush: Steve, you were thinking of “Charlie Chan in Shanghai.”

Godwinshelley2: Finders Keepers

Hawaii_Steve: Oland and Luke are in a hotel room. Luke sees the hand/gun in the mirror. Am I remembering it correctly?

Rush: The mirror one was in “Secret.”

Godwinshelley2: So Rush do you add these sayings to the list

Rush: And..I am not sure to be honest about the “Shanghai” one having a mitrror…maybe yes.

Godwinshelley2: Ugh – not that one!!

Cdirus: What was the one where lee threw the tobacco jar at the gun?

Rush: Not these, although they are very close and often exact to those in thwe original movie.

Mike n Rachel in DC: That was in Panama, CD…I think

Rush: By the way…the Chan son we saw with Mrs. Chan was called “Henry” in “Charlie Chan Carries On.”

Cdirus: Ok

Mike n Rachel in DC: That’s when we found out that he was on the baseball team

Rush: Chan is feeling “down” here.

Rush: he is still in th dark as to the ID of the killer.

Rush: Time runs out…

Godwinshelley2: Weird hem on her shirt and dress – like dental molding on furniture

Rush: Chan often serves as a reconsiler of young lovers.

Godwinshelley2: It ‘s the only way they can bring romance into the film for Charlie, since he is a married man.

Rush: Chan gets an idea!

Godwinshelley2: Why would you dot your last name?

Rush: Sets a trap for the killer.

Godwinshelley2: Is that a Spanish thing – putting a period after a name

Rush: You mean, after it, GS?

Rush: Funny scene here.

Rush: The resulting misunderstanding will prove beneficial to both!

Rush: The ship’s horn.

Godwinshelley2: Whoops

Rush: 🙂

Rush: ….

Len Freeman: dear dummy

Mike n Rachel in DC: *smooch*

Godwinshelley2: Those pencil eyebrows are a bit much for me

Rush: The style then.

Mike n Rachel in DC: Now. Where were we?

Rush: Timewise?

Len Freeman: I think they’re back in

Mike n Rachel in DC: Oh Lord. What a get-up

Godwinshelley2: 1:05

Rush: 105:20

Rush: The party scene.

Rush: Max has change his attitude.

Rush: A “regular guy” now!

Godwinshelley2: This part is a bit long for me

Godwinshelley2: Tough guys play the accordian – tell Weird Al!

Len Freeman: we call this
stretching…

Mike n Rachel in DC: Baba-loooo

Rush: Raul Roulien, a famous Brazillian performer of the day.

Rush: These scenes gave him the chance to “do his stuff.
“

Godwinshelley2: They were getting their money’s worth from his notoriety

hounder: odd looking instrument

Rush: Bottle with coins in it?

Mike n Rachel in DC: ANOTHER Danse Apache?

Rush: That was Brazillian, I believe.

Godwinshelley2: Ugh – again – not my favorite

Rush: And now…the dreaded “Dans Apache….”

Godwinshelley2: Even when I Love Lucy does it – I don’t like it

hounder: yuk. dans apache

Len Freeman: abuse abuse

Mike n Rachel in DC: Does anyone know where this thing came from? It seems like an odd entertainment

Rush: “Brutish Dance”

Godwinshelley2: France?

Godwinshelley2: They do it again in one of Chan’s French adventures

Mike n Rachel in DC: In “Paris”

Rush: How about when Popeye dances it with Bluto?

Rush: Chan plants the trap…

Rush: And soon he SETS it.

Godwinshelley2: A quick look at the internet says this about Apache Dancing: In early 20th century Paris, a dance was created to depict the perceived savagery of street gangs, prostitutes, and pimps.

Rush: Masterful move here.

Rush: Yes, GS.

Godwinshelley2: Look – tea bags!

Rush: CC looked for a reaction as he said the name.

Mike n Rachel in DC: Eberhard

Godwinshelley2: This might be a fun movie to do bad lip syncing with

Rush: Yes. Eberhard in both “CC Carries On” and “CC’s Murder Cruise.”

Rush: GS, that dot after the last name was not uncommon.

Rush: Sort of like when we see something like “Page One.”

Godwinshelley2: Really? I know Karloff often signed autographs with a dot after his name

Rush: Gives finality.

Godwinshelley2: So like — 30 — in journalism