Chat Archive 11/9/2020

The text of our Charlie Chan Family Chat for November 9, 2020

Docks of New Orleans

The Adventures of Smilin’ Jack (Chapter 6)

angel & docks
Dan Venture
Hounder/2hou der
Len Freeman

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Matt1: Hello Rush!

Rush: Good evening, Matt!

Rush: How are you doing?

Matt1: Another day, but good, thnx….u?

Rush: Same here.

Rush: The world is crazy…hopefully a bit of a respite tonight!

Matt1: That’s what Monday nights are for!

Rush: I worked on an article for Lou’s year-end newslatrter last night.

Matt1: Room apperas to be lagging in a BIG way!

Rush: SUPER SLOW posting right now…sorry!

Matt1: How did that go?

Rush: YES!

Rush: Submitted…he liked it.

Matt1: Can’t wait to read it….What was the topic?

Rush: It’s about the Chan Sunday comics.

Matt1: Ah!

Rush: AH! We are running faster now!

Matt1: Much better, yes

Rush: Felt like swimming through molasses!

Matt1: lol

Rush: Next year we can listen to the Chan radio dramas again.

Rush: I think that will please the newer members.

Matt1: Don’t laugh, but with 2020 being what it is, we put up our Christmas decorations yesterday….The end of the year can’t come soon enough, lol

Rush: I agree!

Rush: Hopefully we won’t be forced to breathe our own CO2 much longer!

Matt1: We always say it seems like we just put them up and we’re taking them down, so….

Rush: Yes.

Rush: We shall see!

Matt1: Yes

Rush: It’s tough on children…

Matt1: We rented a pavilion at a park near Orlando and will host Thanksgiving outside for the family

Matt1: If all goes well, we’ll do the same for Christmas day

Rush: Sounds great!

Matt1: Keeping everyone outside this year

Rush: Soon the weather will change in many places.

Rush: outside activities will not be as easy.

Matt1: Yes, family in PA can’t do it, but here in FL it’s a year round thing….for the most part

Rush: I hope this slowdown does not affect our countdown tonight!

Matt1: I wasn’t going to say anything

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Rush: Yes about Florida.

Matt1: Hello Len!

Rush: Good evening, Len!


Len Freeman: HI.

Len Freeman: Slow getting in tonight

Matt1: FYI Len, room is lagging a bit tonight

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Rush: Little slow at times.

Matt1: Hello Hounder!

Hounder: Cool idea Matt. Hi guys.

Matt1: Thnx!

Rush: Hello, Hounder!

Rush: How are you tonight?

Len Freeman: HI Hounder

Rush: Len, I haven’t heard back from Louise, yet.

Len Freeman: Ah. OK

Len Freeman: Maybe she wants to wait to score on her own

Hounder: Just so you know. I’m not going to be abounding entertaining member tonight. I hadabout 2 hours sleep lastnight.

Len Freeman: We can see that by your typing

Matt1: Hope all is Ok, Hounder?

Rush: Your mother, hounder?

Hounder: last night.. sorry. Been a long day

Rush: Sorry.

Len Freeman: Everything OK there?

Matt1: FYI, Cued here

Rush: Hopefully this evening will allow you to change gears a little, Hounder.

Hounder: Yes. About midnight she tried to use the shower for a toilet and fell in in the tub. Then she had a couple bad dreams. I had trouble falling back to sleep

Rush: TYSM, Matt!

Rush: I need to do the same.

Matt1: So sorry H

Rush: Ready.

Rush: Everyone else ready for the serial?

Hounder: Mostly ok just a little all over the place

Len Freeman: So sorry…. that falling in the tub is no fun. I funked up a rib pretty good that way

Rush: We are here for you, Hounder.

Len Freeman: Yes

Rush: Please stay as long as you feel you can!

Rush: I’ll start the countdown at 30 seconds…

Rush: 25…

Rush: 20…

Hounder: Thanks rush. We’re toddling along ok. I just don’t do as well with little sleep.

Rush: 15…

Rush: 10…

Rush: 5…

Rush: GO!!!

Matt1: Weeeeeeeee!

Rush: Title….misic…credits….

Len Freeman: Up and flying

Rush: Yes!

Rush: Bombs away!

Rush: “Midnight in Hong Kong”

Rush: Fraulein Von Teuffel.

Rush: Into the crate…into the drink!

Len Freeman: Keye Luke to the rescue

Rush: YES!

Rush: Saved him!

Matt1: It’s a Jack IN the box!

Rush: 🙂

Rush: And, he can smile again!

Rush: Hari kiri.

Rush: Largely at large!

Rush: Interesting weapon.

Rush: Pretty effective!

Len Freeman: and fully loaded!

Hounder: Matt are you going to be hit by the tropical storm of the week?

Rush: We may see it used in about….10 minutes!

Rush: Pen at the ready.

Matt1: We’re in the cone of uncertainty

Rush: We might see some good footage of the Pan Am Clipper.

Matt1: We had 35+ mph winds today

Rush: Winds building?

Len Freeman: Honolulu… will; CCbe there?

Rush: I haven’t been following that one, Matt.

Hounder: I think we had in the 20’s. Grey and rainy

Matt1: Eta

Rush: I thought the same, Len!

Hounder: Yup. That’s the one. Lol

Rush: Invisible ink!

Rush: Nice stock footage.

Rush: “Sehr gut.”

Len Freeman: I would’ve loved to actually fly on one of these clipper ships

Rush: The deadly pen…

Matt1: Sticky situation

Rush: Yes, indeed!

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Rush: GS!

Matt1: Hello GS!

Rush: WELCOME!!!

Godwinshelley2: Howdy – I still need to cue up my dvd

Hounder: Hi gs. Hope all is we.l

Len Freeman: Hi GB

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Len Freeman: GS

Louise: Hello Chgan Clan!

Len Freeman: Hi Louise

Louise: Chan

Matt1: Hello Louise!

Louise: I see it is going to be a typo night

Hounder: Hi louise

Louise: Hi all

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Rush: WOW! Great “ending”!

Matt1: <clap=clap>

Hounder: My faultlouise. I started it.

Matt1: Hello DV!

Rush: WELCOME, Louise!

Rush: I hope that you and GS are doing well!

Hounder: Hi dan

DanVenture: Thanks, Matt! Good to be here.

Rush: And…DV, TOO!


Louise: Fine day here in New Jersey. You would think it was summer with all the people on the beach.

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Dona: Hello Eveyone!

Matt1: Hello Dona!

Hounder: Hi dona

Louise: Hi dona

Rush: Enjoy the weather while you can, Louise! Winter approaches!

Len Freeman: That ending was shot for another major film… fairly expensive to do… which is why it was reused in a number of films… including this one.

Rush: Dona!

Rush: Good evening to YOU!

Louise: Winter next week!

Len Freeman: Hi Dona

Godwinshelley2: OK I’m cued

Len Freeman: We have snow coming again tomorrow

Louise: CUED here

Rush: Yes, Louise!

DanVenture: What’s next?

Rush: I need to ready my copy.

Godwinshelley2: So Rush – do you think that walking tour of San Fran Chinatown I made might be something you would want in your newsletter?

Rush: If anyone is using the online version, it is in TWP PARTS.

Rush: That is the only example online I could locate.

Rush: “Docks of New Orleans.”

DanVenture: TWP Parts?

Louise: Will we take a break between the two parts, Rush?

Rush: It seems that Chan and company were spending an bit of time in New Orleans.

Matt1: Cued!

Len Freeman: cued

Rush: Is anyone using the online copy?

Dona: Cued

Matt1: DVD

Louise: No, using DVD

Rush: I am as well.

DanVenture: I am.

Rush: So, no break.

Dona: DVD

DanVenture: My DVD is probably in storage.

Rush: If anyone is using the online copy, we can bring you to where we are.

Hounder: Dvd

Rush: We can help you along, DV!

Rush: So, just start with “Part 1”.

DanVenture: I am cued on the title card

Rush: Then as that one ends, click on “part 2”.

Rush: Perfect, DV!

Rush: 3 1/2 minutes to go…

Len Freeman: I’m gping to have to leave a little early tonight, so Part 1 may be just fine for me.

Rush: Louise, did you see my email?

Rush: Okay, Len.

Louise: Yes Rush. I just replied!

DanVenture: I wonder why they went with a non-Charlie Chan title.

Rush: three minutes to go…

Godwinshelley2: Rush – newsletter question – would the San Fran Walking tour of Chinatown I did years ago be something for that?

Rush: TYSM, Louise!

Louise: So Rush, the big reveal tonight?

Rush: Sounds like a good one, GS. Will it tie-in with Chan?

Rush: 2 minutes…

Godwinshelley2: It was based on one of the novels

Rush: Hopefully my countdown will not slow dow to a crawl!

Len Freeman: ??!!

Godwinshelley2: Stops pointed out for locations mentions

Rush: The speed has bee snail-like at times!

Rush: 75 seconds…

Matt1: You got this!

Rush: 60 seconds…

Louise: ready

Rush: 50 seconds…

Rush: 🙂

Hounder: Ready

Rush: 40 seconds…

Rush: 30 seconds…

Rush: 25…

Rush: 20…

Rush: 15…

Rush: 10…

Rush: 5…

Rush: GO!!!


Rush: Title….

Rush: Music…

Rush: Credits…

Rush: New Orleans Harbor…

Rush: I was there a few years ago.

Matt1: Fun city

Len Freeman: I think that’s about all of New Orleans we see tonight

Rush: Yes.

Rush: Big…and…easy!

Louise: The Big Easy: good movie

Rush: 🙂

Dona: that is not Chan music

Louise: Ah, that dock set

Rush: This set was used in “The Chinese Ring.”

Rush: Yes, louise!

Len Freeman: just noticed that

Rush: GS, your Chinatown idea sounds good!

Godwinshelley2: Should I send you an email of the PDFs for that?

Rush: As certain streets, etc. are mentioned in Chan films, that would be FUN!

Godwinshelley2: IF I can find them again

Rush: Even some of the shots seen in “Behind That Curtain” could be noted!

Godwinshelley2: This one was from a book

Rush: Yes.

Godwinshelley2: Yes I could send my photo in a photo too

Louise: Oh the furry arms

Rush: That can work. I am always fascinated with the accuracy regarding the Chinatown locale that is portrayed in the Chan films.

Rush: some “incomplete talk”!

Rush: I love it!

Louise: The incomplete talk here is funny…I wonder if the audience knows it is a reference to previous movies.

Rush: It was somethingf that followers of Mantan Moreland could have been aware of.

Rush: Tommy’s feet give him away…

Rush: Also, as you note, some probably recalled similar bits in other Chan movies.

Rush: By this time, Charlie Chan is based in San Francisco.

Rush: That will be verified at the very end of the film tonight.

Rush: Close one!

Louise: Uncle

Rush: Next week, we will be watching “Mr. Wong, Detective” starring Boris Karloff.

DanVenture: Good stuff too, Rush.

Rush: While celebrating his birthday, we can compare this film to that one.

Godwinshelley2: Louise – did that outfit have a peplum? I hadn’t paid enough attention

Len Freeman: a tontine

Rush: The Wong movie was the basis for this plot.

Rush: Yes, DV!

Len Freeman: last partner to survive gets it all

Hounder: So even back then they did remakes

Louise: Didn’t notice GS

Rush: Yes, Len! Never a good contract to sign!!!

Len Freeman: Scott Darling, the writer, kept reusing his scripts. The first Mr WOng is a rewrite of a film he did circa 1932

Godwinshelley2: OK Rush – notice that back of this woman’s jacket – the flounce is a peplum

Rush: AH!

Len Freeman: And then he used Wong scripts for Chan

Rush: This lady?

Louise: We have a peplum!

Godwinshelley2: Finally – it was also popular in the 80s

Rush: Rene is wearing one?

DanVenture: I imagine reruns weren’t common in those days. So four-five years and no one remembers that “old” movie plot.

Louise: A peplum: like a mini skirt hanging off the bottom of a jacket!

Rush: “Poor, unhappy old men” can, indeed be dangerous!

Len Freeman: yes DV … B-westerns did it all the time

Godwinshelley2: I think the jackets also tucked in at the waist to allow the peplum to add more flounce – and to make them look different from the back from a man’s jacket

Rush: Makes sense, GS.

Louise: Yeah, but look there is a dead guy on the floor!

Rush: Now her share is bigger.

Dona: An accident thats a homicide

Matt1: <tin can>

Rush: TYSM…Matt…

Godwinshelley2: They did alot of remakes with the transition from silent to sound and also from radio to television

Rush: yes, GS.

Louise: Looks like she is wearing black in anticipation of the funeral???

Rush: yes…she’s good to go!

Godwinshelley2: Sometimes they would do the same script in the same week for a drama that was both radio and television

Rush: Len, odd question, but did you ever watch the old “Space Patrol” TV show when it aired in the early to mid-1950s?

Len Freeman: yes

Rush: I have a bunch on DVD.

Rush: FUN stuff!

Rush: The only show i reacall watching of that type was “Captain Z-Ro.”

Len Freeman: I read somewhere that Space Patrol was actually the first TV show to broadcast nationally

Len Freeman: wonderful fun show

Rush: really, Len?

Len Freeman: I believe that

Rush: It was REALLY popular, and I read that it even was an influence for “Star Trek”!

Rush: I LOVE watching the DVDs!

Rush: Nice backdrop as they drive through the city.

Rush: looks like actual location.

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Louise: Here we go…

Rush: nice bit here!

Matt1: Fun

Hounder: Dog walks then Mombasa wandering.

Rush: More incomplete talk!!!

Len Freeman: Checked my notes. Space Patrol was the very first regular live West Coast morning network program to get beamed to the East Coast

Louise: Always includes some French!

Hounder: Mom was

Rush: By the way, Mantan Moreland was from Louisiana.

Godwinshelley2: Woman trying to cross in front of car pulling out of garage was also wearing a peplum

Louise: Peplum heaven

Hounder: Really rush? I don’t hear it in his voice

Rush: it seems that the peplum might replace the white fox fur!

Godwinshelley2: Just happened to be the fashion – often smaller studios would have the actors use their own wardrobe

Louise: Never, Rush, although I like the earlier fashions

Rush: 🙂

Rush: Coquina bark.

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Rush: Thae answer to the question: “What comes out of the north end of a coquina Hound?”

Louise: Chop Suey Boogie

Dona: lol

Rush: “Chop Suey boogie”

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Louise: “Dolphin”

Hounder: Killing a cat

Godwinshelley2: Rush – I emailed you 3 parts to Chan walk from 2014

Rush: Watch Tommy closely on the violin when they play it agai, here.

Rush: A player violin!

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Len Freeman: angel

Matt1: Hello A & D!

angel & docks: Sorry late but happy to be among honored detectives!

Rush: Angel and Docks!


Dona: Hello Angel and Docks

Rush: GREAT to see you again!!!

Louise: Nice to see you angel

Hounder: Hi angel and docks

Rush: How are you doing so far, hounder?

Godwinshelley2: She is wearing a snack bowl on her head

Rush: Yes!

Rush: Convenient!

Godwinshelley2: a 12 button suit

Dona: Yes GS chip and dip

Rush: Chan caught…

Rush: (cough…cough…)

Rush: if you can listen to the “small talk” here, it’s interesting.

Rush: They had people improvise, I am sure.

Louise: We all need a butler

Dona: Agreed Louise

Rush: Yes.

Louise: GS: Wait, how would you button that???

Godwinshelley2: center

Godwinshelley2: rest are decorative

Godwinshelley2: my guess

Rush: Angel, how are you this evening?

Rush: Were you involved in your move?

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Rush: In the Wong version, the siren would have been important.

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Matt1: <tin can>

Len Freeman: yes

Rush: WB, Hounder.

angel & docks: We are sitting on the bay here WITHOUT a dock (HEY DOCK!)—precious Chan DVD set (courtesy of LEN!) is at my house, i am elsewhere & find no Web source. So i & Fox Docks will just sit between two Chinese ferns.

2hou der: Window closed and had to sign in as someone else

Rush: We DO have the online version available above, Angel!

Rush: We would be into “part 2” by now.

Len Freeman: on part 2 now 8 mins in

Rush: DV…doing okay with the online version?

Rush: TYSM, Len!

Louise: Go

DanVenture: Yes. Took only about 10 seconds to get the second part started.

angel & docks: GREET-THINGS, to ALL! Happy to see so many on this chillywilly night *kicking FoxDocks under table*

Godwinshelley2: Louise – any chance you will be associated with that Miniature tv program?

Rush: Another interesting plot “borrowing” happens when we see “The Feathered Serpent” in a couple of weeks. It was based on “Riders of the Whuistling Skull.”

angel & docks: Miniature TV? ANYTHING that would make the small screen smaller would be a big help.

Louise: No, GS. A friend of mine was in it. But I am not sure they can still do it because of COVID.

Rush: The screens were very small when I was a kid!

Dona: I remember those too Rush.

Rush: 🙂

Dona: When my dad was in college he built a tv.

Rush: We didn’t know the difference!

Dona: black and white

Rush: I remember when we got a Magnavox 24-inch screen TV!

Rush: THAT was a TREAT!

Louise: For those interested in the mini thing we are talking about, there will be a Christmas themed show in which artists make a miniature house, etc in a contest that lasts 4 weeks. Not sure the channel it is on.

Godwinshelley2: Had B&W tv growing up – family didn’t get color – or a second car – until after I finished college and moved out

Rush: Like the Food Channel, maybe?

angel & docks: I LOVE reading about Early TV. Amazing! The paths not taken, etzetera! Hey, if you want an amusement, Google the original Brazilian TV test pattern! I’ll say no more!!!

Godwinshelley2: Oh good – the snack tray has arrived

Rush: I had a friend whose family had the first color TV in the neighborhood.

Rush: Not too much to see in color then, though!

Godwinshelley2: Or that colored cellophane you would put on your B&W screen to simulate sky and grass

Len Freeman: Our early RCA with a round screen

Louise: We had a teeny tv set in the 1950s

angel & docks: GS: They were JUST WAITING for the last notes of Gaudeamus Igitur to fade, & your ’64 Skylark to bottom out one more time as you left with your last boxes (400 ls of LPs), before phoning Sears to say they could deliver the Color set.

Rush: I missed the last tincan, Matt…sorry!

Rush: Rene’s share just increased in value again.

Len Freeman: We all used to run over to another kids house for the afternoon kids shows, because they had the only set in our neighborhood

angel & docks: Some scream for ice cream, i can for tin cans.

Rush: It was so fun then, Len!

Dona: lol

Len Freeman: agreed

Rush: Angel: 🙂

angel & docks: Len—We did the same thing, but more so cuz that kid had got a spare key to the liquor made.

Len Freeman: lol

Rush: I had a friend whose family didn’t have a TV in the ’60s, and he sometimes sat on the curb to see the TV in the house across the street!

angel & docks: Every day was Boxing Day.

Godwinshelley2: Wow – he actually got the name out and didn’t get shot!!

angel & docks: Rush—we used to go where there was a line of sight to a drive-in!

Godwinshelley2: Some audio feeds for television were very close to radio channels – I used to listen to Channel 6 television on my radio

Rush: The sirens in the Wong movie will not be benign.

Rush: Yes, GS!

Godwinshelley2: Mission Impossible was TERRIBLE over the radio

angel & docks: Rush—in HOW MANY Hollywood scripts over the years, did the following appear: (ACTOR): “It was—” [SOUND] GUNSHOT

Len Freeman: Yes GS, the “fine tuning” knob got a lot of use…

Rush: There were radios that had TV station settings, i believe.

Godwinshelley2: And tin foil on the anntenna

Len Freeman: Yes!!

Rush: Angel…Those actors were probably not even billed!

angel & docks: Antennas! Try to explain THEM to these whippersnappers!

Rush: YES!

Rush: Tommy: CLUNKRD!

2hou der: Rabbit ears

Rush: Or…KONKED.

Rush: I used those!

angel & docks: CLUNKRD INDEED!

Rush: 🙂

angel & docks: Is Lancelot Link still alive?

Rush: As we see…not as much BB see as usual!

Louise: Too many guns in these later movies

Rush: This is doubtles due to this being a “borrowed” plot.

Rush: Good point, Louise.

angel & docks: Not enough guns in the earlier movies. Maybe needed MORE MOVIES, spread the arms around.

Rush: 🙂

Rush: There’s tonight’s fur.

angel & docks: Does the gun triggered by a (fake) thermostat count as a gun, or a heat weapon?

angel & docks: A flick of the tail from Fox.

Rush: That would be a gimmick, Angel!

Godwinshelley2: There was a chair in a previous scene that seemed to be “furry” too

Rush: Murder device.

angel & docks: Housewives making holiday plans should remember to get PLENTY of Tetragene!

Rush: Closest thing to that at our home would be tangerine, Angel.

Louise: another foxy wrap

Rush: Yes.

Rush: Mink?

Godwinshelley2: shoulder pads in that suit

Rush: (Tick, tick, tick…)

Louise: Minks apparently harbor COVID: dump that mink!

angel & docks: Rush, the slogan “Safer At Home” surely applies to you & all who keep the Tetragene at U-Store-It.

Rush: Yes!

Dona: lol

Louise: The miniature show is on HGTV beginning November 27th

Rush: That was a long 50 seconds!

Rush: We’ll look for it, Louise.

angel & docks: test

angel & docks: The Mink thing! Who’da thunk it? Mrs. Howell! Paging Mrs. Howell!

Rush: It is interesting that we hear several sirens in this movie. Thay are almost used without purpose. not so in the Wong version.

Rush: Chan uses the power of suggestion here.

Len Freeman: have to see that next week

Rush: That’s one way to get the bad guys!

Rush: Yes, len.

angel & docks: Rush: Maybe they had a product-placement deal with a siren manufacturer?

Rush: Now she owns ALL of the cargo!

Rush: Possibly, Angel!

angel & docks: When my dad was in the Air Force he once pinned Rita Hayworth to the wall. Three years later he had to take out the thumbtacks & roll her in the hay, as Germany was demil’d.

Rush: Oh, MY!

angel & docks: Those were the days, i

angel & docks: i’m told.

Rush: Chan lays a trap.

Rush: As am I…”told.”

Louise: Ouch those high notes

Len Freeman: hurt even now

angel & docks: My shoe is off. My foot is cold. And now my story is all told.

Rush: His punishment: He will be forced to listen to his wife sing 24 hours a day for life.

angel & docks: My ears have suffered from Maria callus since my one night at the opera.

Rush: Very Marxian!

angel & docks: Thank your DeSoto-Plymouth Dealer!

Rush: The SF mention soon.

angel & docks: Say the Secret Woid (“S__ F_______”) & win $100!

Rush: Chan tells US1

Louise: YAY!!!!

Godwinshelley2: So was the next Chan film in San Fran?

Matt1: <yee-haw>

Rush: THE END.

Rush: (Applause…)

Dona: WAHOOOO!!!!

Rush: TYSM, everyone!

angel & docks: SALTY TEARS!!

Len Freeman: goo dending

angel & docks: Thank you all! We feel as if we have seem it all!

Rush: I hope that you took notes for the comparison next week!

Len Freeman: \ggod

2hou der: Thanks for the fun guys. Safe week. See you next week.

Rush: TYSM, Hounder!

Rush: take care.

angel & docks: Goo dending to all! See you on the next dock!

Matt1: Good night folks and have a great week ahead

Rush: my very best to you and your mother.

DanVenture: Guess it’s see you in San Fran with Charlie

Louise: Nite all. Lots of fun.

Dona: Great night Rush! Good to see everyone! See you all next week.

Rush: See you next week!

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Len Freeman: Night all.

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Godwinshelley2: OK – will check in next week

Rush: GS…on behalf of Lou, thank you for contributing!

DanVenture: Everyone stay healthy and hale!

Godwinshelley2: If you need it in another format, let me know.

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Rush: Louise, if you would like to add a short article, I think that’d be GREAT.

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Godwinshelley2: night

Rush: maybe something about screen capturing all those chats!

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Rush: Going back to 2010!

Rush: Oh, well!

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Rush: Take care, Dan!

Rush: Good night yo uou!

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Rush: make that: Good night to you!

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