The text of our Charlie Chan Family Chat for January 13, 2025
Feature: Eran Trece (There were Thirteen)
Chat Number: 1,290
Extra:
CHARLIE CHAN CARRIES ON [1931, Trailer] – Warner Oland
Participants:
Barbie Dahl
Godwinshelley
hounder
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti
Paul Minturn
Rush
tenman
01-13 18:23
Rush:
01-13 18:33
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Good evening, Rush!
01-13 18:34
Rush:
Hello, Mike and Rachel!
You two get around!
01-13 18:34
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
We’re back in Ann Arbor (Rachel is back in school).
01-13 18:34
Rush:
…And Christi!
01-13 18:35
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
But Rachel’s house is actually in Ypsilanti, MI (near Ann Arbor).
01-13 18:35
Rush:
Great that you can be together!
01-13 18:35
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
And Christi is Rachel’s housemate…fellow conducting student. She’s our guest this evening.
01-13 18:36
Rush:
Very good! WELCOME, Christi!
Mike, will you be here on the 27th?
01-13 18:37
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Likely, Rush, unless something unexpected happens. I’ll be back in DC (solo) thenl
01-13 18:37
Rush:
I have a training that night for school, and I will need a sub.
01-13 18:38
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Aha. Let me confirm next week. I should be able to to do it.
01-13 18:38
Rush:
The movie will be the recreation of “Charlie Chan’s Chance.”
TYSM!
If it works out that will be great!
01-13 18:39
Rush:
We can even skip the usual “extra” that night if that helps!
01-13 18:40
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Happy to host an extra if you can suggest one or two…
01-13 18:40
Rush:
I can maybe stop by after my training ends (about 9:00 ET)…
01-13 18:40
Rush:
Thank you.
Not sure what a possible extra might be, but we shall see!
01-13 18:40
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
It seems mostly to be a matter of keeping an eye on the clock so things start on time…and doing the famous countdowns
01-13 18:41
Rush:
That is not a big deal, really.
Just so it all happens.
01-13 18:41
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Gotcha.
01-13 18:41
Rush:
01-13 18:42
Rush:
How is the weather up where you are tonight?
01-13 18:44
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Freezing!
It’s snowed every day since I arrived (Friday), and it’s supposed to get colder. High today was 20.
01-13 18:44
Rush:
Here as well. Dry air and really cold!
We were in the single digits here today.
01-13 18:45
Rush:
The “feels like” temperature was below zero at midday.
01-13 18:47
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Yikes!
That seems very cold for IA…but the plains often have extreme high and low temps
01-13 18:48
Rush:
Yes.
01-13 18:49
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Michigan has the lakes to keep temps more moderate…but they do produce snow
01-13 18:49
Rush:
That is true
01-13 18:50
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Seems to be a quiet evening so far….maybe not many Spanish language fans?
01-13 18:51
Rush:
Not yet…some will be here later as you know!
01-13 18:52
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
The post-extra influx.
01-13 18:52
Rush:
Hello Hounder!
01-13 18:52
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Hi hounder!
01-13 18:52
Rush:
WELCOME!
01-13 18:54
hounder:
hi.
01-13 18:54
Rush:
BD!
01-13 18:55
Barbie Dahl:
Hello all! Hello Rush!👋🏻
01-13 18:55
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Hello Barbie!
01-13 18:55
Rush:
hOW ARE YOU TONIGHT, bd AND hOUNDER?
01-13 18:55
Barbie Dahl:
Hello hounder 👋🏻
01-13 18:55
Rush:
Sorry! Caps locked!
01-13 18:55
hounder:
cool here. but i’m doing well
01-13 18:55
Rush:
Cool here as well where I am.
01-13 18:55
Barbie Dahl:
Hello Mike, Rachel and Christi👋🏻
01-13 18:56
Rush:
We can run the extra for tonight, if everyone wants.
01-13 18:56
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
01-13 18:57
Barbie Dahl:
39° here and still getting over staph throat but doing ok.
👍🏻
01-13 18:57
Rush:
It is the trailer for “Charlie Chan Carries On” which “Eran Trece” is a near copy of.
01-13 18:58
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Youthful Oland!
01-13 18:58
Rush:
As “CC Carries On” is lost…at least for now…this is the only evidence we have for that movie!
Ready?
01-13 18:58
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
yep.
01-13 18:59
Rush:
Okay….15 seconds….
10…
5…
GO!!!!
Enjoy!
01-13 19:00
Rush:
Welcome, Paul!
We are just starting tonight’s extra…
01-13 19:00
Paul Minturn:
good evening
01-13 19:02
Barbie Dahl:
Hello Paul 👋🏻
01-13 19:03
Rush:
And, there we have it!
01-13 19:03
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Very cool.
01-13 19:03
Rush:
Tonight we will be sharing the Spanish language version of this film.
01-13 19:04
Rush:
Yo will recognize some of the scenes we saw just now that were copied for “Eran Trece.”
11 minutes to go….
01-13 19:05
Rush:
9 minutes to go…
01-13 19:07
Rush:
If you have “Eran Trece” in the Fox DVD collection, you will find it as a part of “CC in Shanghai”
I will post the link to the movie online….
01-13 19:08
Rush:
7 minutes….
01-13 19:08
Rush:
01-13 19:08
Godwinshelley:
Greetings all
01-13 19:09
Rush:
6 minutes….
GS!
Good evening to you!!!
01-13 19:09
hounder:
hi gs. ready here
01-13 19:09
Rush:
WELCOME!!!
01-13 19:09
Godwinshelley:
Did you see my email Rush?
01-13 19:09
Rush:
Not yet.
01-13 19:09
Barbie Dahl:
Hello GS👋🏻
01-13 19:09
Rush:
5 minutes…
01-13 19:10
Godwinshelley:
I’m cued – it just starts – no fancy fanfare, right?
01-13 19:10
Rush:
I will take a look later.
01-13 19:10
Godwinshelley:
On the dvd
01-13 19:10
Rush:
We had the extra already.
01-13 19:10
Godwinshelley:
Its the spanish Chan ton ight?
01-13 19:11
Rush:
Just start as the film begins…no Fox fanfare…
4 minutes…
01-13 19:11
Barbie Dahl:
Spanish, si.
01-13 19:12
Rush:
3 minutes…
01-13 19:13
Rush:
TWO MINUTES…
Is everyone ready?
01-13 19:13
hounder:
yes sir
01-13 19:13
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
all set in Ypsi
01-13 19:13
Rush:
90 seconds…
01-13 19:14
Rush:
75 seconds…
60 seconds…
50 seconds…
01-13 19:14
tenman:
Hola todos!
01-13 19:14
Rush:
40 seconds…
WELCOME, TM!
30 seconds…
25…
20…
01-13 19:15
Rush:
15…
10…
5…
GO!!!
Title and music….
01-13 19:15
Barbie Dahl:
Hello Tenman👋🏻
01-13 19:15
Rush:
credits…
01-13 19:15
tenman:
Credit Rush and Jimenez
01-13 19:15
Rush:
This is probably the intro music used for “CC Carries On”
Scotland Yard
01-13 19:17
Barbie Dahl:
First potential red flag: Charlie is the last character listed in the credits…🤔
01-13 19:17
Rush:
The first appearance of a Chan aphorism in the series.
01-13 19:17
Rush:
In this version, Yes, BD.
He does appear after the movie is well underway!
01-13 19:18
Rush:
In the English Language version, I would guarantee that Warner Oland was top-billed.
01-13 19:18
Barbie Dahl:
Oh, yes
01-13 19:18
Godwinshelley:
Warner was in “Mandalay” today on TCM
01-13 19:19
Rush:
I missed that.
I would have DVR’d it.
01-13 19:19
Godwinshelley:
It’s Kay Francis day today on TCM
01-13 19:19
Rush:
Oh well.
01-13 19:19
Godwinshelley:
Rush – if you have “on-demand” on your cable you might find it available to watch
01-13 19:20
Rush:
Possibly.
My daughter is good at finding movies via Amazon prime, etc!
01-13 19:21
Godwinshelley:
On demand makes some TCM features available after they air on both East and West coast.
01-13 19:21
Rush:
We see the victim’s hand in the background!
01-13 19:22
Paul Minturn:
i get REMIND magazine. they feature a full calendar of the next month’s TCM movies
01-13 19:22
Godwinshelley:
The first few features that are lost, are they like this with Chan appearing later after the action
01-13 19:22
Barbie Dahl:
Don’t touch that hand, you don’t know where it’s been!😝
01-13 19:23
Godwinshelley:
Paul is REMIND a print or email magazine
01-13 19:24
Rush:
We have the illustrated scripts for all four ‘lost” Chan films here at this site. They give a pretty close approximation of what the finished movoes were like.
01-13 19:24
Rush:
(movies)
01-13 19:27
Rush:
Max Minchin and his wife.
01-13 19:27
Paul Minturn:
it’s a print magazine
01-13 19:27
Rush:
In “CC Carries On,” the lady was played by the funny blond lady in “The Black camel.”
01-13 19:28
Godwinshelley:
That is a weird outfit with the fur cuff on the ladies dress
01-13 19:28
hounder:
gld there are subtitles
01-13 19:28
Barbie Dahl:
Absolutely!
01-13 19:30
Rush:
Marjorie white…the wife of the gangster in “CC Carries On”
01-13 19:30
Barbie Dahl:
👍🏻
01-13 19:31
Rush:
We will see her next week in “The Black Camel”
01-13 19:33
Rush:
He should not be a part of a round the world trip as sickly as he is!
01-13 19:35
Rush:
Instead of stones, silver dimes are used in the “remake” of CC Carries On”….”Charlie Chan’s Murder Cruise”
01-13 19:35
Rush:
His hat has the bow on the rear.
01-13 19:36
Barbie Dahl:
He wants a sailor’s funeral, Rush.
01-13 19:37
Rush:
AH!
01-13 19:37
Rush:
We are very fortunate that this version of “CC Carries On” is available to us today!
01-13 19:38
Barbie Dahl:
How did they find this version?
01-13 19:38
Godwinshelley:
Is this the only spanish Chan or were other features filmed in Spanish too?
01-13 19:39
Rush:
I am not sure, but there was some excitement about it, as I understand.
Yes, GS, this is the only such film.
01-13 19:39
Barbie Dahl:
Didn’t they do double duty a lot back then, English and Spanish versions?
01-13 19:39
Rush:
No.
01-13 19:39
Rush:
They used well-known Spanish language actors to make this one.
01-13 19:40
Godwinshelley:
They did with Dracula – and there is a French version of Laurel & Hardey in “Pardon US” (with Karloff in the French version)
01-13 19:40
Rush:
I think it was too early in the Chan series…just ONE movie!…for the regular Chan actors to make a Spanish language version.
01-13 19:40
Godwinshelley:
I guess Karloff spoke French?!
01-13 19:41
Rush:
Yes?
NIZA…”NICE”
01-13 19:41
Rush:
A faked suicide.
01-13 19:42
Godwinshelley:
For as early as this is – there is some nice camera work
01-13 19:42
Rush:
Agreed!
01-13 19:42
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Still somewhat “theatrical” acting
01-13 19:43
Rush:
Yes…a bit of it.
Not as pronounced as in “Behind That Curtain,” though!
01-13 19:44
Rush:
Show him a picture of Maynard!
01-13 19:45
Rush:
Point him out NOW
Or at least describe him!
01-13 19:45
Godwinshelley:
That sounds like Lone Ranger music
01-13 19:46
Rush:
TOO LATE!
Yes, GS!
Or…The Lone Ranger used CHAN MUSIC!
01-13 19:46
Barbie Dahl:
01-13 19:47
Rush:
TYSM….BD!
You are the official can/bucket person tonight!
01-13 19:48
Rush:
Sphinx….
01-13 19:48
Barbie Dahl:
Damn! But I’m a one kick pony, that’s the only Pic I have on my phone.🤣😂
01-13 19:48
Rush:
Pyramids….
Istanbul…
01-13 19:49
Rush:
India?
HONG KONG…
Funny dialogue here!
01-13 19:49
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
REAL Chinese musicians!
01-13 19:49
Rush:
YES!
Street performers.
01-13 19:50
Rush:
She is holding a Japanese fan.
01-13 19:51
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
From a previous stop perhaps?
01-13 19:51
Rush:
That would be backtracking.
01-13 19:51
hounder:
..
01-13 19:52
Rush:
Of course, the Japanese were beginning to have a “presence” in Mancuria by this time!
Funny dialogue again…
01-13 19:53
Rush:
“MER-ci”!
01-13 19:54
Rush:
He is too proud to admit his feelings for her, as she is fairly rich and he would seem to be going after her money.
01-13 19:54
Rush:
Mistake by her here!
01-13 19:55
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Perhaps a shrewd move to get him to reveal that he cares for her?
01-13 19:55
Rush:
Recall the same scene in the “CC Carries On” trailer we saw earlier….
01-13 19:56
Barbie Dahl:
Yep
01-13 19:56
Rush:
Arrival in Honolulu!
01-13 19:56
Godwinshelley:
Show off
01-13 19:56
Rush:
Charlie Chan at home….
Played by Manuel Arbo.
01-13 19:57
hounder:
very elaborate chinese home for a detective with so many children
01-13 19:58
Rush:
Note the wider brim the usual on CC’s hat.
Yes, Hounder!
01-13 19:59
Rush:
The backdrop here looks like the real thing was used.
This is the same set seen in “CC Carries on”
01-13 19:59
Godwinshelley:
What is the number one rule when visiting Chan’s office – never sit with your back to the window or doors
01-13 19:59
Rush:
EXACTLY!!!
01-13 20:00
Rush:
Got him in the center of the upper back!
01-13 20:01
Rush:
Call an ambulance, guys!!!
01-13 20:01
Godwinshelley:
In Chan’s office – it’s practically SOP to get shot or stabbed
01-13 20:01
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
“Hey Charlie, I’m not dead yet…”
01-13 20:01
hounder:
good rule to follow anywhere chan is gs
01-13 20:01
Godwinshelley:
Hello – I’m down here bleeding
01-13 20:01
Rush:
01-13 20:02
Barbie Dahl:
Windows ARE never a good thing in a Chan flick.
01-13 20:02
Rush:
Don’t move him!
Yes, BD!
01-13 20:02
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Wow. The Chan canon could have been very short given that vow!
01-13 20:02
Barbie Dahl:
01-13 20:03
Rush:
Not too fast….BD!
01-13 20:03
Godwinshelley:
Isn’t Duff in other films?
01-13 20:03
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
He’s in Murder Cruise…gets knocked off again.
01-13 20:03
Barbie Dahl:
Is it McDuff in OvercNew York?
01-13 20:03
Rush:
Mrs. Chan is speaking JAPANESE!!!
Note her goodbye….”Sayonara!”
01-13 20:04
Godwinshelley:
Do they say Mrs Chan is Chinese?
01-13 20:04
Rush:
Yes.
01-13 20:04
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Took that Chan series a little while to get everything fine-tuned.
01-13 20:04
Rush:
Evidently they thought no one would notice.
01-13 20:05
Rush:
In the English version, I would guess that scene was a little different language-wise!
01-13 20:05
Godwinshelley:
insultingly wounded
01-13 20:08
Barbie Dahl:
Fef working out the character kinks in this early film… regular hat brim or wide, bachelor pad or house, speaks Chinese, Japanese or Swedish🤣😂
*DEF working out
01-13 20:08
Rush:
01-13 20:08
hounder:
me, i’d have gone for the gun, not the glove.
01-13 20:09
Barbie Dahl:
🐒🐒🐒
01-13 20:09
Godwinshelley:
Yea
01-13 20:09
Barbie Dahl:
Hounder, leave the gun, take the canoli… and make that coffee to go!
01-13 20:10
Rush:
It is possible that we will be putting together a Charlie Chan 100th anniversary get together in Warren, OH (birthplace of Earl Derr Biggers) sometime this summer. Chack our Message Board as possibilities progress!
01-13 20:10
hounder:
be back. dog walk
01-13 20:10
Rush:
(Check)
Okay, Hounder!
01-13 20:10
Barbie Dahl:
Kewl, Rush!
01-13 20:10
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
woof
01-13 20:11
hounder:
false alarm, he just wanted my warm seat. lol
01-13 20:11
Barbie Dahl:
What kinda doggo does hounder have?
01-13 20:11
Rush:
01-13 20:11
hounder:
weimareiner
01-13 20:11
Barbie Dahl:
What kinda dog do you have hounder?
01-13 20:11
hounder:
lol. used to have bloodhounds.
01-13 20:12
tenman:
Who else has what kind of dog?
01-13 20:12
Barbie Dahl:
Kewl. My stepgrandfather had one, smokey, good dog
01-13 20:12
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Christi has two dogs
01-13 20:13
Rush:
Why, then, would he have a portrait photo of her???
01-13 20:14
Rush:
“Gracias…muchisimo…”
01-13 20:14
Barbie Dahl:
No doggo for me at this time, five kittehs. I’d like to get one, though.🐕
01-13 20:15
Rush:
$10 then…around $200 today….
01-13 20:17
Rush:
Chan gets an idea….
01-13 20:17
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
A trap!
01-13 20:18
Rush:
Cute bit here with the ship’s horn….
01-13 20:19
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Chan begins his career as cupid
01-13 20:19
Rush:
Yes!
01-13 20:20
Barbie Dahl:
Chan was ever the Romantic
01-13 20:20
Rush:
We see a nicer side of Max Minchin now!
01-13 20:21
hounder:
when did chan start refering to himself in the third person?
01-13 20:21
hounder:
when chan leac
ves the table not when i leave the table?
01-13 20:23
Rush:
A Brazilian song…Portuguese…
Now, a version of the Danse Apache…
01-13 20:23
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Danse Apache…the prequel
01-13 20:23
Rush:
Yes.
01-13 20:24
Godwinshelley:
This dance would be much shorter if she had a gun
01-13 20:24
Rush:
Indeed!
01-13 20:24
hounder:
and this is just as annoying
01-13 20:24
Barbie Dahl:
😝
01-13 20:24
Rush:
But quick!
01-13 20:24
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
I always wonder what people found entertaining about that dance.
01-13 20:25
Rush:
Chan sets his trap…
01-13 20:25
Godwinshelley:
I wonder the same thing about football
01-13 20:25
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Now we know why Jimmy was always doing this stuff….the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree.
01-13 20:26
Rush:
The scene as it looked in the Oland version
01-13 20:26
Rush:
And, yes, Hounder, the third person is unique to this film, I think!
01-13 20:30
Rush:
This music appears in “CC’s Secret”
01-13 20:31
Barbie Dahl:
I seem to recall CC using 3rd person occasionally but never habitually. He might say, “Chinese detective learn from experience” or some such…🤔
01-13 20:31
Rush:
Yes…that is true.
01-13 20:32
Rush:
But I think this is the only time he calls himself “Chan.”
01-13 20:33
Barbie Dahl:
Charlie always with the planted notes.
01-13 20:33
Rush:
Thes planted note bore fruit!
01-13 20:34
Barbie Dahl:
Yes, Rush, I don’t think he ever says, “Chan…”
01-13 20:34
Rush:
THE END
Exit music….
01-13 20:34
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
<Ninos-yeah>
01-13 20:34
Rush:
(Applause….)
01-13 20:34
Barbie Dahl:
Good flick, I’m glad I watched it, was unaware of subtitkes.
01-13 20:34
Rush:
So….
01-13 20:34
tenman:
Once again, I’m shocked. Utterly shocked.
01-13 20:34
Rush:
A great one, if I may say so!
01-13 20:35
Barbie Dahl:
Well, not that shocked.
01-13 20:35
Rush:
Thank you ALL!
I love seeing this film.
Next week…
01-13 20:35
tenman:
It didn’t seem like he was even trying to indicate any sort of asian accent for Charlie at all.
01-13 20:35
Rush:
“The Black camel”
01-13 20:35
hounder:
i was concentrating to hard on translating the dialogue it was hard to follow the story. lol
01-13 20:35
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
It’s really unfortunate CC Carries On was lost, but very glad to have this one
01-13 20:35
Barbie Dahl:
Thank you, Rush! So sorry I missed the last 2
01-13 20:35
Rush:
The oldest surviving film in the CC series…
Agreed, Mike!
01-13 20:35
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
…and one of the very best
01-13 20:35
tenman:
Nytol. And thanks for the subtitles, Ruch!
*Rush
01-13 20:36
Godwinshelley:
Stay safe everyone.
01-13 20:36
Rush:
Thank you also to Rachel and Christi!
01-13 20:36
Barbie Dahl:
Night tenman👋🏻
01-13 20:36
Rush:
I hope Christi enjoyed the movie.
01-13 20:36
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Mike may not make it next week…in transit back to DC.
01-13 20:36
Barbie Dahl:
Night GS👋🏻
01-13 20:36
hounder:
nite all. see you next week
01-13 20:36
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Much joy in Ypsilanti
01-13 20:36
Rush:
Thank you ALL, again!
GREAT evening!!!
01-13 20:36
Godwinshelley:
Night all
01-13 20:36
Barbie Dahl:
Good night Mike, Rachel n Kristi 👋🏻
01-13 20:36
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Rush, I’ll email you about the 27th
01-13 20:36
Rush:
Have a happy and safe week!
01-13 20:37
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
Good night everyone. Have a great week!
01-13 20:37
Rush:
Stay warm…those in the colder areas!
01-13 20:37
Mike n Rachel n Christi in Ypsilanti:
🥶
01-13 20:37
Rush:
have a good night, everyone….
01-13 20:37
Barbie Dahl:
Night hounder 👋🏻
01-13 20:37
Rush:
See you next week…
01-13 20:37
Barbie Dahl:
Night Rush! 👋🏻
01-13 20:37
Rush:
Thank you again…
Good night!
01-13 20:37
Barbie Dahl:
Yw
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