The text of our Charlie Chan Family Chat for January 28, 2019
Feature:
The Black Camel
Extra:
The Adventures of Smilin’ Jack (Chapter 4)
Participants:
angel & fox
cdirus
Dona
Godwinshelley2
hounder
Len Freeman
Library Jim
Louise
marcycloud
Matt
Mike in DC
Rush
Rush has joined this room16:28
Rush: TEST.16:28
hounder has joined this room16:28
hounder: test came through16:29
Rush: Hello, Hounder!16:29
hounder: hi16:29
Rush: Good evening to you!16:29
hounder: hope you had a good week.16:29
Rush: How are you doing tonight?16:29
Matt has joined this room16:29
Rush: I think I did…cannot complain.16:29
Rush: How about you?16:29
hounder: doing pretty well. it’s been cold and windy here16:29
Matt: Hello Rush & Hounder!16:30
Rush: That was my next question.16:30
Rush: The weather.16:30
hounder: hi matt16:30
Rush: hi, Matt@!16:30
Rush: WELCOME!16:30
Rush: And, how are YOU tonight?16:30
Matt: Hope you both are well tonight!16:30
Rush: TYSM…doing well!16:30
hounder: pretty well. and you?16:30
Matt: COLD in FL, but good, thnx16:30
Mike in DC has joined this room16:31
Mike in DC: Good evening all!16:31
Matt: Hello Mike!16:31
Rush: I may be in one of the few places that is NOT cold.16:31
hounder: yes it is matt, and was windy too!16:31
Rush: Gets chilly at night, but in the day, mid-70s.16:31
Matt: We should be in upper 70’s by Fri/Sat though16:31
Rush: Sounds good, Matt!16:31
Mike in DC: Nippy in DC, but that’s more normal for us.16:32
Rush: Hello, Mike!16:32
Rush: Rachel is out at the moment?16:32
hounder: hey mike16:32
Mike in DC: yes, Rush…doing her workout :)16:32
Mike in DC: Hi hounder!16:32
Rush: We can start our serial in about 6 minutes….16:33
Matt: My favorite night of the year….Olands 1st Chan!16:33
Rush: It runs 20 minutes tonight.16:33
hounder: we’ve had 20 degree temp swings this past week.16:33
Mike in DC: I love this movie, Matt.16:33
Rush: Yes, Matt…at least the earliest one we have with Oland!16:33
Matt: Yes!16:33
Rush: I will say, “The Black camel” is my favorite, too!16:33
Matt: I think it’s mine as well.16:34
Rush: GS will enjoy the Dracula connection!16:34
Matt: Though you can see Oland growing into role still16:34
Rush: Bela Lugosi and Dwight Frye.16:34
Rush: Yes, mat! Fun to see!16:35
Mike in DC: Yes…it’s very interesting to see how the “Chan brand” develops through these early films16:35
Rush: And I LOVE the location shots!16:35
Rush: We even have a rear-projected trip down Prospect Street on Punchbowl Hill with Charlie Chan and Kashimo.16:36
Rush: The clip runs in “real time.”16:36
Matt: Yes….and CC’s driving, lol16:36
Rush: No apparent edits.16:36
Mike in DC: But now road an me turn at same time…16:36
Rush: YES, Matt!16:36
Rush: “Now me and road turn corner same time.”16:37
Mike in DC: :)16:37
Mike in DC: )16:37
Mike in DC: Ha. Easy smiley face16:37
Rush: I will be your echo tonight, Matt!16:37
Matt: lol16:37
Rush: Yes, Mike!16:37
Rush: Okay…shall we ready our “Smilin’ Jack” videos?16:38
Matt: btw, I’m cued for Smilin’ Jack!16:38
Rush: My turn…16:38
hounder: ready here16:38
Len Freeman has joined this room16:38
Mike in DC: Ready for Take-off!16:38
Len Freeman: Hello friends16:38
Mike in DC: Hello Len!16:38
Len Freeman: Have to cue up Jack16:38
Matt: Hello Len!16:38
Rush: Ready here, too!16:38
Rush: Hello, Len!16:38
Rush: WELCOME!16:39
hounder: hi len16:39
Rush: We are just readying our online copies of “Smilin’ Jack.”16:39
Mike in DC: And getting our flying gear on16:39
Rush: 16:39
Rush: Ready, Len?16:39
Rush: We will wait…16:40
Len Freeman: Ok.. I’m ready with Jack16:40
Rush: Okay!16:40
Mike in DC: Contact!16:40
Rush: 15 seconds…16:40
Rush: 10….16:40
Mike in DC: *spins propeller*16:40
Rush: 5….16:41
Rush: GO!!!16:41
Matt: <GONG>16:41
Mike in DC: *zoom*16:41
Rush: All the dredits….16:41
Rush: Falling bomb…16:41
Mike in DC: …commencement music…16:41
Rush: BOOM!16:41
Rush: Yes, Mike!16:41
Len Freeman: A little scattered tonite, because my wife has The British Baking Show on the other channel.. and I’m sneaking peeks….16:41
Mike in DC: *flips tassel*16:41
Rush: I don’yt think I saw “Toler” listed tonight.16:42
Mike in DC: I’ve heard great things about that show, Len.16:42
Mike in DC: A bombing raid!16:42
Matt: I did, below Luke again16:42
Len Freeman: It’s really brilliant16:42
Rush: Okay, TYSM.16:42
Rush: Great stock war footage.16:43
Mike in DC: Hiya Wing16:43
Len Freeman: But enough of that… THIS is Keye Luke’s time16:43
Matt: Try doing that car stunt a second time!16:44
Mike in DC: That’s a lot of firepower expended on one little car16:44
Rush: Yes. Luckily the car stayed upright!16:44
angel & fox has joined this room16:44
Mike in DC: Hey A&F!16:45
Rush: Good evening and WELCOME, Angel and Fox!16:45
angel & fox: Geez, i tried to fly in here & boy my FINGERS are TIRED! Log-in jungle!!16:45
angel & fox: HOwdy all!16:45
Len Freeman: Hi Angel16:45
Rush: We are just a few minutes into the serial!16:45
Matt: Hello A & F!16:45
Rush: 5:4016:46
Len Freeman: circa 5:4516:46
Mike in DC: Rickshaw driver is happy…she looks not too heavy to pull around16:46
Rush: Toler.16:47
Matt: Pop!16:47
Mike in DC: :)16:47
Rush: 16:47
hounder: i’ll have to watch the beginning later, mom needed help getting ready tofor bed.16:47
Rush: For this role, Toler lost the upper part of his CC moustache.16:48
angel & fox: I’m at 6:45. Yes?16:48
Mike in DC: 7:22ish here16:48
Rush: Otherwise, audiences would “think Chan” when they saw him!16:48
angel & fox: Hounder, couldn’t Mom have stuck around for the entertainments?16:48
Rush: 7:5516:48
Mike in DC: Hard not to think that anyway, but nice try16:49
angel & fox: 7:30?16:49
Rush: Understand, Hounder.16:49
Mike in DC: about 30 seconds behind, Angel16:49
angel & fox: Does she have to DUCK at bridges?16:49
Rush: 8:40.16:49
angel & fox: WHICH is the piece that gives life meaning?16:49
angel & fox: What about MY excellency?16:50
Rush: What would Confusion say about that, Angel?16:50
angel & fox: At every ENTRANCE? How about a guard at every EXIT?16:50
Mike in DC: Hm. Good point there, Angel16:51
angel & fox: Black samurai lives—ah, never mind. Just never mind.16:51
Mike in DC: Ah. FvT16:51
Rush: “The Mandarin’s Secret.”16:51
Rush: That was the working title for a Chan movie..16:51
angel & fox: Mike, i try to watch the small stuff, leaving Strategy to our leaders: Rush, CC, the old guy with the wispy thing.16:51
Mike in DC: The Fuehrer even gets to order the Black Samurai around16:52
angel & fox: Pinch your NOSE while talking, too.16:52
angel & fox: He SAID there was a grand furor behind him.16:52
Rush: 16:53
Len Freeman: Rush, which Chan movie was that the working title for?16:53
angel & fox: Traitors in State Department will invert whatever’s going on anyway, which will mean everything’ll come out right in the end.16:53
angel & fox: You’re ALREADY washed up. And bite ME.16:53
Mike in DC: What is this guy? A Mexican Japanese?16:54
angel & fox: LOOKS LIKE JIM NABORS!16:54
Rush: I think it was “The Shanghai Chest.”16:54
Rush: Checking…16:54
Len Freeman: This guy is not going to make it…16:55
angel & fox: I got a bid from the Lavender Samurai in today’s mail. Think i’ll join.16:55
Rush: It was actually “The Chinese Ring.”16:55
Mike in DC: I see a trap coming16:55
Rush: Sounds like Lee is call in the siblings with the whistle!16:55
angel & fox: That’s a HAT big enough to get sick in. I sure hope, anyway.16:55
angel & fox: Let’s play house!16:56
Mike in DC: The “voice behind the screen” trick.16:56
Rush: Picked the wrong screen!16:56
Len Freeman: trap16:56
Rush: Yes!16:56
angel & fox: ATTENTION SHOPPERS! ATTENTION SHOPPERS!16:56
Mike in DC: The Mandarin Woot?16:56
Mike in DC: Her German accent sounds like Elmer Fudd.16:57
angel & fox: How about Point A / Point B?16:57
Mike in DC: Quazy Wabbit.16:57
Len Freeman: I would think that he’d have been hit by one of those shots16:57
Rush: Regarding “The Chinese Ring”: The film’s working titles were “The Mandarin’s Secret,” “The Red Hornet,” and “Charlie Chan and the Chinese Ring.”16:57
Mike in DC: My first suggestion for the Black Samurai is more target practice…16:58
hounder: .16:58
Rush: Pretty easy to bust in…16:58
Mike in DC: Trap door!16:58
Len Freeman: RE: Chinese Ring…. I can see “Secret”… but Red Hornet escapes me…16:58
Mike in DC: Dont’ …erk16:58
Mike in DC: Saw that one coming16:58
angel & fox: Grandma, what big FAN you have!16:59
Len Freeman: death trap #216:59
Rush: Yes! And a good one!16:59
Mike in DC: My fwiend16:59
Len Freeman: ooooo16:59
angel & fox: This bungalow came with orchestra included.16:59
angel & fox: I LIKE the illustration on the fan!16:59
Library Jim. has joined this room16:59
Matt: Hello Jim!16:59
angel & fox: LJ!!! Salutations!17:00
Mike in DC: Floating spikes? Can they float with enough force to break the skin?17:00
Library Jim.: Hi all!17:00
hounder: hi jim17:00
Mike in DC: Hey LJ!17:00
Rush: Actually, evenly distributed knife blades would spread out the pressure, and would not penetrate the skin.17:00
Len Freeman: ouch……17:00
Rush: Hello, LJ!17:00
angel & fox: Rush, i know some people at MIT—you oughta lecture next term.17:00
Matt: <kids-yeah>17:00
Rush: WELCOME!!!17:00
hounder: that would be how the bed of nails is done, right rush?17:00
Mike in DC: Black Samurai need better engineers for their traps, too17:01
hounder: hi angel and fox17:01
Rush: Just finished the serial for this week.17:01
Len Freeman: How’s everyone tonite?17:01
Matt: That was a prickly situation17:01
hounder: and the cliff hanger17:01
Mike in DC: <applause>17:01
angel & fox: YAY!!! kEEP sMILIN’!!17:01
Rush: Indeed!17:01
Rush: Len, things are well at my end. How about you?17:01
Rush: 13 minutes until we roll the feature.17:02
Len Freeman: Pretty good… we’re coming up on a serious cold snap here in Minneapolis17:02
Rush: “The Black Camel.”17:02
Rush: YES! I have been following that!17:02
Louise has joined this room17:02
Rush: You are in some of the worst of it.17:02
Louise: Hi Chan Clan!17:02
Mike in DC: Oooh. Stay warm, Len!17:02
marcycloud has joined this room17:02
Mike in DC: And hello Louise!17:02
Len Freeman: Hi Louise17:02
Len Freeman: Mc17:02
Mike in DC: …and marcycloud!17:03
Matt: Hello Louise & MC!17:03
angel & fox: The Black Camel will start humping along at the kwatah-houah (as we say in Bahston), yes?17:03
Rush: Good evening, LOUISE!17:03
marcycloud: Hiya, All!17:03
Rush: And, Marcycloud!17:03
Louise: Tonight I am definitely going to miss our camel sound effect.17:03
Rush: WELCOME times two!17:03
angel & fox: Hiya Looz!!17:03
Mike in DC: <moo>17:03
Rush: True, Louise!17:03
Louise: Hiya angel and all17:03
angel & fox: Fox here has fur on.17:03
Len Freeman: We’re looking at -25 air temp, and -40 to -50 wind chill the next 2 days17:03
Library Jim.: Agreed Louise17:03
hounder: hi louise and marcy17:03
Matt: Circus will be a BIG one though!17:04
Rush: WOW, Len!17:04
Mike in DC: Dang, Len. Stay inside!17:04
Len Freeman: Minneapolis has already close all schools ’till Thrusday17:04
Rush: That’s SIBERIAN!17:04
Louise: Awww, Circus won’t be the same.17:04
Mike in DC: Just a bit cooler than San Diego, Rush?17:04
Rush: Undoubtedly, Len!17:04
angel & fox: LEN, where ARE you again? Is it Minnesoty?17:04
Rush: A “bit.” yes!17:04
Library Jim.: Cued to title screen.17:04
cdirus has joined this room17:04
Louise: Hah! I just found out you can open the chat in a bigger window.17:04
Matt: Hello CD!17:04
angel & fox: CD, sit you down, rest you!17:05
Rush: 10 minutes to go…17:05
Len Freeman: Staying inside…. 17:05
Library Jim.: Hi, CD17:05
cdirus: Hi everyone!17:05
Mike in DC: -40 is where Fahrenheit and Celsius scales meet.17:05
Mike in DC: Hello CD!17:05
Rush: Good move, Len! stay in and WARM.17:05
marcycloud: I’m in Wrightwood, Rush…17:05
Louise: Cued here17:05
Rush: Wrightwood is near which larger city, MC?17:05
Louise: Cued in color17:06
Mike in DC: Ready here!17:06
marcycloud: our ski resort is alive and kickin’..Mountain High17:06
Matt: Cued to Opening Title here!17:06
Louise: a better color17:06
Rush: I need to do likewise….BRB….17:06
angel & fox: Mike—they’ll be meeting without ME, that’s for sure. Geez, it’s 25F here, which is FIFTY Fahrenheiters ABOVE Len. Ooooooooof!17:06
Len Freeman: Back..17:06
marcycloud: Victorville/San Bernardino17:06
Library Jim.: Yes, I like that one better, too Louise17:06
Louise: Sorry Len, my sister in Vermont says it will be just as cold there17:06
hounder: anyone know how to increase the font size?17:07
hounder: brrrr len17:07
Len Freeman: I’m sure Louise… we’ll all just keep our long johns on17:07
Godwinshelley2 has joined this room17:07
Godwinshelley2: I’m cued17:07
Matt: Hello GS!17:07
Len Freeman: Hi GS17:07
Godwinshelley2: YIKES17:07
Rush: GS!17:07
marcycloud: lol17:07
Matt: lol17:07
cdirus: Hi GS!17:07
Mike in DC: Hey GS17:07
Godwinshelley2: WHY ARE YOU YELLING17:07
hounder: ok matt how’d you do that?17:07
Louise: You have to increse the size before you type and it doesn’t stick. There is a SIZE menu below.17:07
Rush: CD….welcome to YOU, too!17:07
Louise: like this17:07
cdirus: Hi Rush!17:07
hounder: ok?17:08
Matt: Click “A” below and then Size17:08
Matt: YES!17:08
Louise: yes?17:08
Len Freeman: AHA17:08
hounder: did that and got some funky stuff in the type window17:08
Rush: So, MC, you are out toward Victorville?17:08
cdirus: Maybe I should have brought earplugs 17:08
Library Jim.: My notebook ran out of power. At least this chat works with my phone. 17:08
Matt: Now we need to figure out the sound…..Hmmmm17:08
Mike in DC: To boldly go where no one has gone before…17:09
hounder: but what i type didn’t change size. sigh17:09
marcycloud: oh no! lol17:09
Matt: I need to do it each time17:09
hounder: trying the bold17:09
Library Jim.: Matt, yes17:09
Rush: Please pause at the OPENING TITLE.17:09
Louise: select a larger size first and then you type where the cursor is, not after the things the menu puts in17:09
Godwinshelley2: OK – I;m not doing this right17:09
marcycloud: yes, 138 Silverwood exit to Wrightwood hwy 217:09
hounder: sigh. i can’t get it to do it even once. i hate computers sometimes.17:09
Louise: like this17:10
Matt: lol17:10
Library Jim.: 17:10
Matt: YES!17:10
Rush: If you are using the Fox DVD, you will see that they added the Fox fanfare/logo!17:10
Rush: Didn’t exist in 1931!17:10
hounder: hey there’s colors too17:10
Rush: It was just “Fox Film.”17:10
marcycloud: yup!17:10
Library Jim.: It’s not on the YouTube version.17:10
Mike in DC: Nice tid-bit, Rush :)17:10
Louise: feeling pink17:10
marcycloud: 17:10
Matt: Doesn’t take much to entertain us, huh?17:10
Rush: I am happy to note all the fun happening!17:11
Louise: so true Matt!!!17:11
marcycloud: haha…guess not!17:11
Rush: 3 minutes to go…17:11
Rush: Everyone ready?17:11
hounder: not worth it to have to do each time, but ay least it will let me now. thanks guys.17:11
cdirus: trying for brown17:11
Godwinshelley2: Do you have to be Registered to do the special inserts17:11
Louise: yup17:11
Library Jim.: Ready, Chief!17:11
cdirus: and it didn’t work17:11
Louise: No GS17:11
Mike in DC: Surfs’ up!17:11
Rush: 17:11
hounder: ready17:11
Dona has joined this room17:11
Rush: DONA!17:11
Dona: Hello Everyone17:11
hounder: hi dona17:11
Rush: Good evening!17:11
Matt: Hello Dona!17:11
Louise: Hi Dona17:11
Library Jim.: Hi, Dona.17:11
marcycloud: which one is next…i’m always late here.(end of babysitting)17:11
Rush: TWO minutes to go….17:12
cdirus: Hi Dona!17:12
Godwinshelley2: Black Camel17:12
Godwinshelley2: Box Set #3 I think17:12
marcycloud: thanks17:12
Rush: Welcome, Dona…please pause your copy of “The Black Camel” at the opening title….17:12
Dona: I’m ready Rush.17:12
angel & fox: O Dona!!17:12
Rush: WELCOME…by the way!17:12
Rush: 90 seconds…17:12
angel & fox: We’re PUSHING our 15!17:12
marcycloud: ready17:12
Rush: 75 seconds…17:12
Rush: Very good….17:12
Rush: 60 seconds…17:13
Library Jim.: Oh, boy, oh boy, oh boy! Almost time!17:13
Rush: 50 seconds…17:13
Rush: 40 seconds…17:13
Rush: 30 seconds…17:13
Rush: 25…17:13
Rush: 20….17:13
Mike in DC: *lights fuse*17:13
Rush: 15…17:13
Rush: 10…17:13
angel & fox: *gong*17:13
Rush: 5…17:13
Rush: GO!!!17:14
Matt: <GONG!> 17:14
Rush: Title….17:14
Rush: Music….17:14
Rush: Credits….17:14
Dona: I can almost hear it Matt17:14
Library Jim.: Going17:14
hounder: lol. matt’s got it going on tonight17:14
Rush: Director Hamilton MacFadden appears in the opening scenes as the director Val Martino.17:14
Library Jim.: Surf’s up17:14
angel & fox: Otto Yamaoka!!17:14
Rush: Surfers….17:14
Rush: Newspapers…17:15
Godwinshelley2: Paper said Honolulu Territories17:15
Rush: Yes, Otto Yamaoka on Kashimo in this one.17:15
Len Freeman: I think Sally Eilers was Hoot Gibbon’s first wife17:15
Matt: five cents17:15
Library Jim.: Beach beauty17:15
angel & fox: Leases—oh, BEACH—home!!17:15
Rush: Kailua Beach!17:15
Rush: “On the other side of the island.”17:15
Rush: Hamilton MacFadden.17:15
hounder: very lax producer17:16
Mike in DC: Was this before or after Hitchcock appeared in his first film?17:16
Rush: Note that the weather is clear here.17:16
Louise: Oh that hat17:16
Rush: It will cloud up soon and will be darker.17:16
Len Freeman: Robert Young…. Father Knows Best17:16
Mike in DC: Lots of local color17:16
Rush: Note also the hordes of locals watching the shooting!17:16
Rush: Yes, len!17:17
Library Jim.: Free extras.17:17
Rush: Tarneverro….Bwela Lugosi.17:17
Rush: (Bela)17:17
angel & fox: Translation: she’s outta buxx again.17:17
Rush: Note the novelty car horn response!17:17
Rush: “I’m COM-ing!”17:18
angel & fox: As if the Hole Island needed a publicity director.17:18
Library Jim.: Ah. 17:18
Rush: Note the point of land seen here.17:18
Mike in DC: Also from “old black Joe”17:18
Library Jim.: I was waiting for an actual horn.17:18
Rush: There is a home atop that point today.17:18
angel & fox: In The Sopranos, one of the guys had a horn that played The Godfather theme.17:18
Rush: LJ: 17:18
angel & fox: I’ll bet there’s a point atop that home, too.17:19
Library Jim.: What a car that is! 17:19
angel & fox: I KNOW what they’ll DO!17:19
Rush: We just saw the “Lani Kai” monument in the background as they drove past….still there today.17:19
Rush: Roayl Hawaiian.17:19
angel & fox: I imagine ALL the Hawaiians were roiled at that time.17:19
Matt: Great hotel17:19
angel & fox: Nice pants!17:19
Rush: A fun, Chan-related place to visit when in Honolulu.17:20
Len Freeman: Spent an evening there once17:20
Rush: Kashimo.17:20
Rush: “CLUE!”17:20
angel & fox: BELA to a T!17:20
Rush: Yes, Len?17:20
Matt: Me too, Len….fun place17:20
Rush: Wonderful place, isn’t it?17:20
Louise: Haven’t been there yet17:20
Rush: AH!17:20
Rush: Nice!17:20
Rush: Louise, hopefully you can one day!17:21
hounder: no case just clue. charliwe isn’t impressed by kashimo17:21
Louise: Thanks Rush17:21
Rush: Lugosi and Oland.17:21
Len Freeman: Yes — Hawaii Steve showed Lindsay and I where some of this shooting took place… 17:21
angel & fox: Bela’s roving eyes are searching for a hooch dealer anywhere.17:21
Godwinshelley2: Mail box siting17:21
Louise: Anyone know how to insert an image in the conversation?17:21
Rush: That wall mounted mailbox is there still today.17:21
Rush: The one behind CC.17:21
Mike in DC: A great moment in film.17:21
Rush: Agreed!17:21
Louise: Pinhole of badge a giveaway17:22
angel & fox: Two TITANS.17:22
Rush: Indeed!17:22
Godwinshelley2: Werewolf of London and Dracula17:22
Rush: Yes, GS!17:22
Library Jim.: Ah, so!17:22
angel & fox: Louise, YOU & Betsy Ross could have changed History. And Geometry. And Phys.Ed.17:22
angel & fox: What an era.17:23
Mike in DC: And then there’s this turban…17:23
Rush: Yes.17:23
hounder: love the pillared look17:23
angel & fox: Anybody ELSE would know that schnozz ANYWHERE.17:24
Library Jim.: He’s quite wrapped up in that turban look.17:24
Rush: If you look VERY closely at the point Shelah Fane grabs ahold of the crystal ball, you can see a bubble dislodge!17:24
Rush: See all the spots on the globe….bubbles!17:24
angel & fox: They’ve got big balls!17:24
Library Jim.: He just closed the blinds.17:25
Len Freeman: Angel… time to hold back…17:25
Mike in DC: spooky…17:25
Louise: creepy17:25
Louise: Yes thenturban is dumb17:25
Library Jim.: I saw a shadow but not sure bubble17:26
Mike in DC: bubble just bubbled17:26
angel & fox: You DON’T like the turban? I LAHVVVVV it!17:26
Rush: See the bubble?17:26
Louise: Stop screaming17:26
Mike in DC: Louise, this is Drama. (note caps)17:26
angel & fox: Is this all because she didn’t pay her bill from last time?17:26
Rush: One little one moved upward as she released the globe, actually.17:26
Godwinshelley2: oQuick – look over there!!17:26
hounder: looks like there should be fish swimming in that crystal ball.17:26
Library Jim.: Oh, there is17:26
Rush: 17:26
Mike in DC: Nice shot here.17:27
Mike in DC: Harold = A+ on that one.17:27
Rush: Yes, very dramatic visually!17:28
Louise: Mayo, as in Mayo-naise?17:28
angel & fox: Anybody think she looks JUST A BIT like Judy Holliday?17:28
Library Jim.: Love the lighting17:28
Rush: Louise: 17:28
angel & fox: *wolf whistle* (from Fox)17:28
Mike in DC: Wasn’t that in “An Officer and a Gentleman?”17:28
angel & fox: For the balloons?17:28
Library Jim.: Ah, now she’s sad17:28
Rush: Tears up photo….17:28
Mike in DC: Maid is pissed.17:29
Rush: And angry, too.17:29
angel & fox: SOMEBODY’S a little SNIPPY!17:29
Rush: 1313.17:29
Library Jim.: I’m about 22 seconds behind17:30
angel & fox: Must remember to start putting my own name in “quote marks” from here on.17:30
Mike in DC: Sounds like a good omen there17:30
Godwinshelley2: And now Renfield17:30
Mike in DC: Time for a few flies17:30
angel & fox: He seems rather Beta to me.17:30
Rush: I have us at….17:0017:30
Len Freeman: LOL17:30
Rush: That stairway is not open today.17:31
angel & fox: The word is supercalifragilisticex—oh, never mind.17:31
Rush: A wall surrounds it now.17:31
Rush: 17:45…17:31
Rush: Very few after-dinner speeches equipped with self-stopper.17:31
Dona: a wall,17:31
Rush: 18:0017:31
angel & fox: I’ve got an ornate belt buckle—think i’ll start flashing THAT.17:31
Mike in DC: Many good Chan-isms in this one17:31
Rush: All foxes come at last to fur store.
17:32
Library Jim.: He does look like Renfeld, is it the same actor?17:32
angel & fox: THIS fox did.17:32
Rush: Yes!17:32
Len Freeman: Yes LJ17:32
Len Freeman: Maybe he came in a package with Bela…17:32
angel & fox: Head for SHORT PIER.17:32
Rush: Note Oland’s “take” on Chan at this point.17:32
Louise: Shark!17:32
Rush: Next time we see him will be in “London” next week.17:32
Rush: In between this one and that one were three “lost” films.17:33
angel & fox: JIMMY went on to front a band called The B-52s.17:33
Rush: We jump from 1931 to 1934.17:33
Godwinshelley2: missing films?17:33
Rush: Angel… 17:33
Library Jim.: Really glad they didn’t keep that Koshimo character.17:33
Rush: Yes.17:33
angel & fox: Frozen smiles in H’olulu!17:34
Len Freeman: This is the same hotel from the Joni Mitchell song… “they paved paradise and put up a parking lot”17:34
Rush: Note the “cut” here.17:34
Mike in DC: Rush…do we know how the “lost” films got lost?17:34
Rush: here!17:34
angel & fox: Len—DID they put up the parking lot?17:34
Mike in DC: *jump*17:34
Mike in DC: saw it, Rush.17:34
Rush: I suspect that a piece was cut from the film there.17:34
Len Freeman: Yes Angel17:34
Dona: I saw it rush17:34
angel & fox: Her robe looks like a pizza box.17:34
Paul M has joined this room17:35
Dona: LOL17:35
Louise: Good question Mike17:35
Rush: perhaps Shelah said something like “Oh, my God!”17:35
angel & fox: I knew it. I knew Joni’d never lie.17:35
Godwinshelley2: Hi Paul17:35
Dona: it does Angel but I hadn’t thought of it17:35
Mike in DC: World’s largest cocktail shaker there!17:35
Rush: And it was not allowed to stay in.17:35
angel & fox: Dona, let’s not think of it again.17:35
Rush: Murdered.17:35
Dona: OK17:35
Rush: Virtual tincan, please…17:35
Len Freeman: clunk17:36
Library Jim.: <can>17:36
Paul M: hi gang. sorry i’m late17:36
cdirus: Hi Paul!17:36
Dona: Hi Paul17:36
Len Freeman: I think is Sally EIlers…17:36
angel & fox: Was CC wrudely wrenched, or rudely renched?17:36
Len Freeman: EIlers17:36
Rush: Sally Eilers: Julie O’Neill 17:36
Len Freeman: who was married to Hoot Gibson, the western star17:36
angel & fox: BELA: If you see any potholes, STOP. I can settle for pot.17:37
hounder: quite a bold design on the back of that cover up17:37
Rush: Interesting!17:37
Rush: Great line!17:37
angel & fox: Musta been nice to have a hubby hoo was a hoot.17:37
Mike in DC: :)17:37
Rush: “At first, I’m pretty bad driver; but now, me and road turn corner same time.’17:37
angel & fox: Gonna steal that line, “me & road turn corners same time”, for SURE!17:37
hounder: i worked with a guy whose last name was gibson and his nickname was hoot.17:38
Rush: You can hear the Hawaiian doves cooing…17:39
Rush: Distinctive call.17:39
angel & fox: h: 17:39
Library Jim.: I’m still behind, but it’s difficult to adjust in Roku YouTube.17:39
angel & fox: Singing Polly Wolly Doodle all the day, i hope.17:39
Library Jim.: So I’ll live with it.17:39
Rush: “There is old saying: ‘Death is a black camel that kneels unbidden at every gate.'” 17:39
angel & fox: Yes can!17:39
Rush: Great lighting.17:39
angel & fox: N I I I I I C E !!!!17:40
hounder: love that black camel line17:40
angel & fox: “you may already have…”17:40
angel & fox: …but i DO! I do already have one!17:40
Rush: “I am not in mood tonight for turning other cheek, but will return assault with compound battery.”17:41
Godwinshelley2: Now that was a stagey enterance by Lugosi17:41
Mike in DC: Is that Dr. Cream?17:41
Rush: You see that lady in the background?17:41
Rush: “Miss Dixon.”17:41
angel & fox: If i could get a girlfriend or boyfriend i’d pat their hand too.17:41
Rush: Not credited, and she has one short line, I believe.”17:41
angel & fox: I sense resentment issues.17:42
Rush: The character was in the Biggers story.17:42
Library Jim.: Charlie s habit of taking letters from people….17:42
angel & fox: They’re ALREADY starting to do the Bunny Hop.17:42
hounder: it doesn’t pay to make charlie mad17:43
Rush: Kashimo at work…17:43
Louise: I mean, I haveted mattresses but not like that17:43
angel & fox: LJ: He was planning a kids’ radio show. Was gonna call it Sushi Street, have “letters” as sponsors.17:43
Louise: hated17:43
Rush: “Orders!”17:43
Library Jim.: Lol17:43
angel & fox: To YOU, maybe, CC.17:43
angel & fox: “Mister Too-Soon?”17:44
Mike in DC: Is that Dr Cream from Wax Museum?17:44
angel & fox: ESPECIALLY his “liquors”.17:44
Rush: “That’s a go…no more answers.”17:44
Rush: Yes, it is, mike!17:44
angel & fox: Kashimo on speed?17:44
Rush: This lady was the wife of the gangster in the English version of “CC Carries On.”17:45
hounder: very poor search method.17:45
Rush: The Oland version.17:45
Library Jim.: So much for preserving the crime scene17:45
Godwinshelley2: very good quote17:45
Mike in DC: not exactly CSI17:45
Rush: Marjorie White: Rita Ballou17:45
Godwinshelley2: you need an invention to detect lies — oh you mean a WIFE – I have one17:45
angel & fox: There’s a great gaping hole in the lake! (—Firesign Theater)17:46
Library Jim.: One of my favorite lines, GS17:46
Rush: Marjorie White met a tragic end not too long after this film. Killed in a car accident.17:46
Louise: Real Chinese?17:47
Rush: James Wang17:47
angel & fox: I want a hat like Mr. Wang’s; a car like Miss White’s only with brakes.17:47
Rush: Yes, Angel!17:47
angel & fox: Speaking of which, HAGGIS for dinner! Eat hearty!!17:47
Library Jim.: Mrs White, in the study with the candlestick17:48
Rush: A long time ago, I had some.17:48
angel & fox: “Pardon my attire”?!! I’d pay $20 for that outfit!17:48
Library Jim.: Angel, celebrating Burn’s night?17:48
Rush: That might not be incorrect, Angel!17:49
angel & fox: LJ: It’s the Scotch in me.17:49
Rush: that would be about $300 today!17:49
Library Jim.: Even bagpipes will not speak when stomach is empty17:50
angel & fox: Rush—it’s a NICE JACKET!17:50
Rush: Very!17:50
Library Jim.: I17:50
Library Jim.: Agree17:51
angel & fox: And the Star of Starbucks or whatever that is: i’ll take that, too. Separate? No problem!17:51
Dona: Mr. Smith17:51
Rush: “Smith”…Murray Kinnell, appeared in FOUR Chan movies:
The Black Camel: Smith
Charlie Chan’s Courage: Martin Thorne
Charlie Chan in London: Philips (alias Captain Seton)
Charlie Chan in Paris: Henri Latouche 17:51
angel & fox: Beach on YOU, anyway.17:51
angel & fox: Whaddayou mean, “dinner”?—WhaddaYOU mean, “Paris”?17:52
hounder: hey, the clue walks and talks17:53
Rush: Chan puts the information together here.17:53
Library Jim.: He’s a painter. How much to paint my house?17:53
Rush: 17:54
angel & fox: “Oh, that won’t matter; i’m gonna be late myself—REALLY late. LITERALLY late.”17:54
angel & fox: Give ME a sponge.17:55
Library Jim.: That wasn’t suspicious at all.17:55
Len Freeman: the beach painter, a wonderfully pathetic character17:55
angel & fox: ALIAS Smith and Fife.17:55
Rush: “Way to find rabbit’s residence is to turn rabbit loose and watch.”17:55
Len Freeman: reminiscent of a lot of “artists” who’ve fled to the islands17:55
Rush: Yes, Angel.17:55
Rush: “Always happens – when conscience tries to speak, telephone out of order.”17:56
Mike in DC: That changed to letting wild bird sing by “London…”17:56
angel & fox: I’ve been looking to buy a house. Will start looking at rabbits.17:56
Rush: This scene would be happening at night if the continuity is right.17:56
Rush: Very BRIGHT moon!17:56
angel & fox: Rush, YOURS is the voice of CONSCIENCE reminding us to LISTEN to Charlie.17:57
Mike in DC: not enough darkening of the film…17:57
angel & fox: Mike—i dunno, maybe they shoulda kept the lens cap all the way on.17:57
Rush: Rita Rozelle: Luana17:57
Library Jim.: My address is Sandy spot, any beach Honolulu17:57
Library Jim.: Told you I was behind17:58
angel & fox: LJ, 17:58
Rush: Indeed you are, Len!17:58
hounder: lol@lj17:58
angel & fox: You just bought yourself some Art.17:58
Rush: I have us at…45:0017:58
hounder: i’m slightly behind y’all17:58
Louise: Bang!17:59
angel & fox: On CELERY? That’s worse than what Lugosi’s on?17:59
Rush: $500…$7,500 today.17:59
Library Jim.: I advanced to 45:1217:59
Mike in DC: Man down!17:59
Rush: $100…$1,500 today, about.17:59
angel & fox: I’m at 46:00.17:59
Library Jim.: Is that a real beach or green screen?18:00
Rush: 46:15…18:00
angel & fox: That her grass skirt, or his?18:00
Rush: The Chan’s at breakfast.18:00
Godwinshelley2: which son is that18:00
Mike in DC: Talking back to pop? Hm.18:00
angel & fox: RUSH—how many Chan Children appeared in the series?18:00
Rush: Number One Daughter…Ivy Ling.18:00
angel & fox: Applesauce AND beans?18:01
Rush: Ivy Ling is the daughter of E.L. Park, Chan in “Behind That Curtain.”18:01
Godwinshelley2: from punchbowl hill?18:01
Rush: This was shot on Punchbowl Hill.18:01
Mike in DC: :)18:01
Godwinshelley2: Wonder if I can do one of those old photo in current location shoots18:01
Rush: Even the rear-projection was shot there, along Prospect street.18:01
angel & fox: WHAT a world. To have lived then!18:01
Godwinshelley2: I’ll take a few screen shots of this with me18:01
Rush: Yes, you can, GS!18:02
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Rush: Note the odd roof that they pass.18:02
Library Jim.: <can>18:02
angel & fox: What if Alleycat sends swab to Catancestry.com?18:02
Rush: It is still there today.18:02
Library Jim.: Oops he’s alive.18:02
Godwinshelley2: will have to run it back later18:02
Rush: You can actually walk that route we just saw.18:02
hounder: he give up shooting after 1 shot? 18:02
Mike in DC: It’s alive…it’s alive!18:02
hounder: nite dona18:02
angel & fox: I’ll take a Chanel No.5, & TWO of Fragrance de Billy Goat.18:02
Rush: Librarian.18:02
Godwinshelley2: Nice Rush – I’ll have to ask Hawaiian Steve if it’s on his tour18:03
Godwinshelley2: So frugal – she made her dress from a table cloth18:03
Mike in DC: Odd dress.18:03
Rush: You should also go over to Kailua Beach to see where the first scenes were shot.18:03
angel & fox: Her first “date” since 1927!! “Wait, i’ll get my sweater!”18:03
Len Freeman: Chang Apana’s grave is further up that valley as I recall18:03
Rush: Yes.18:03
Godwinshelley2: Chang in a regular graveyard or a special location?18:03
Len Freeman: In Manoa… worth a viisit18:03
Rush: If you contact Hawaii Steve, you can get the whole thing!18:04
Louise: Sacrilege to desecrate library files18:04
Mike in DC: A. Friend18:04
Len Freeman: It’s a regular graveyard, though a specifically Chinese one.18:04
Rush: He is THE expert on all Chan locations.18:04
Godwinshelley2: I hope to stop by the Honolulu Police Dept to see their Chang display too18:04
Rush: Yes!18:04
Godwinshelley2: We are all set up with Steve – for the Sunday we are there18:04
angel & fox: She got there SECOND, right?18:04
Godwinshelley2: With Tuesday as our backup plan18:04
Rush: AND, you can find the OLD HPD headquarters where CC would have worked!18:04
Library Jim.: Library! Ah, make me feel at home.18:04
Len Freeman: There’s an amateur video online that actually walks to where his grave is18:04
Rush: Near the wATERFRONT.18:05
angel & fox: Gentl’n: The HPD have a Chan exhibit? Wow!18:05
Rush: Yes they do.18:05
Godwinshelley2: No it’s a Chang Apana display18:05
Len Freeman: A bit hard to follow, but it got us there once into the cemetary18:05
Godwinshelley2: Will look for it Len18:05
Mike in DC: Lesson from hen.18:05
Rush: Chang Apana items on display there, as well as Charlie Chan things.18:05
Godwinshelley2: Oh – nice18:05
Rush: Well worth the visit.18:05
Len Freeman: Y*es18:06
angel & fox: “Afteregg’s Birthday”: isn’t that that new series on Netflix?18:06
Rush: Just to see the history of the HPD is fun.18:06
Godwinshelley2: In San Francisco – if you eat at Joe’s Grill – there is a whole display of the Maltese Falcon upstairs 18:06
Library Jim.: Cool. Would love to see that Rush.18:06
Rush: Yes, GS?18:06
Rush: NICE!18:06
Godwinshelley2: Restaurant mentioned in Dashille Hammet stories18:06
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Dona: I didn’t realize I was gone until I tried to write18:06
Mike in DC: WB Dona18:07
Rush: Yes, Dona!18:07
angel & fox: Didn’t ANYBODY back then have those gummy things you could use to clean typewriter keys? Even I knew about THOSE!18:07
Mike in DC: :)18:07
Godwinshelley2: Don’t really enjoy the interaction between Chan and his assistant in this film18:07
hounder: neat news gw18:07
Library Jim.: Someone needs to create a literary crime tour for these places. Forget the map to Stars homes.18:07
Mike in DC: Upgrading Kashimo was a good move in the development of the series18:07
Dona: GS where in SF, I would like to see that18:07
angel & fox: “Can cut off monkey’s tail, but but still monkey…” Good thing Chan’s not speaking on current social topics, so to speak.18:07
Rush: Mary Gordon: Mrs. MacMasters18:07
Louise: I agree GS18:08
hounder: kashimo is not a good assistant to charlie. i guess h he was supposed to be comic relief, but he’s not funny. just annoying.18:08
Godwinshelley2: Yes – it’s close to Union Square – and just a few blocks from where Bridget show Miles Archer18:08
Library Jim.: Hounder, I agree.18:08
Mike in DC: Ah. Sounds worth at trip, GS.18:08
angel & fox: It’s the Scotch in him.18:08
Dona: I will look for it next time I go up there. Thank you.18:09
Godwinshelley2: Wear your hiking shoes – it’s uphill from restaurant to plaque where Bridget Shot Miles18:09
Rush: We see Mary Gordon in two other Chan movies: “Charlie Chan in London” as the prison matron, and later, in “Shadows Over Chinatown.”18:09
Mike in DC: Moral dilemma.18:09
angel & fox: MacTavish Ghkhlorroddn McBurrrrr.18:09
Godwinshelley2: I have a few maps of Dashille Hammett sites I could email folks if they are going18:09
Rush: This scene was shot in what today is called “Ali’i Walk” at the Royal Hawaiian.18:09
angel & fox: But DOWNHILL to Miles—miles & miles for Miles.18:09
Rush: Note how the crowd comes running on cue!18:10
Rush: Local extras!18:10
Mike in DC: Go!18:10
Rush: See then get raedy?18:10
Rush: I love how the boy gets into the shot!18:10
Mike in DC: nice move, Junior. :)18:10
angel & fox: Notice HOW FAST every man from 90 to 9 came running! Different world.18:10
Rush: Yes!18:11
Mike in DC: I think the slower ones were left for the wolves or something…18:11
Rush: I love the “innocence.”18:11
angel & fox: “Shoving off”. Don’t pull my—well, just don’t pull it.18:11
angel & fox: Mike: And the foxes.18:12
Rush: Shelah Fane killed Denny Mayo….18:12
angel & fox: Bang bang, my baby shot me down.18:13
Rush: 18:13
Rush: The fatal bullet.18:14
Rush: Matt…the virtual tincan, please…18:14
angel & fox: Die, die, my darling! And HURRY!18:14
angel & fox: *tin can*18:14
Matt: <tin can>18:14
Rush: Chan with his Chief.18:14
angel & fox: “Smith” is in the “clink”.18:14
Len Freeman: this is the pathetic artist scene that I think is rather well done.18:15
Rush: The set we saw for Chan’s office just then looks like a match for what we see in “CC Carries On.”18:16
angel & fox: That SCRATCHES the murderer, yes?18:16
Rush: Especially the grillwork in the window.18:16
angel & fox: Rush, REALLY? I’ll be watching for it!18:16
angel & fox: Butler a little buzzed.18:16
angel & fox: It IS getting to be TIME to Gather Everyone Together.18:17
Rush: Romance blossoms….18:18
angel & fox: “Just this ONCE”?18:18
Louise: Yes, it’s the gather them all together time18:18
Rush: We see that in a number of Chan movies!18:18
angel & fox: Hocus Pocus: didn’t they have that song “Focus”, with the yodeling?18:18
Louise: I like the mirror in the back18:19
angel & fox: A roomcam the nite before mighta spared ALL (including US) this wearisome routine.18:19
Rush: I like the reflection of all suspects in that mirror.18:19
Rush: Chan knows what is going on….18:20
hounder: someone doesn’t want chan to keep investigating18:20
Rush: Yes.18:20
Mike in DC: The butler did it…er…18:20
angel & fox: Poor POR thing couldn’t afford a second pair o’ kicks. On such hooks do lives & worse depend.18:20
Rush: The missing pin!18:20
Rush: Note Frye’s expression.18:21
Mike in DC: Caught red-heeled!18:21
angel & fox: “All WITNESSES”? Why didn’t he LEAVE the Offending Pin in its SPOT?
18:21
Rush: :)18:21
Rush: Mrs. Denny Mayo!18:21
Mike in DC: Mrs. Mayo…has a ring to it18:22
Rush: Arthur mayo.18:22
Rush: Yes, Mike!18:22
Rush: A wedding ring.18:22
angel & fox: In future—NO MAYO.18:22
Library Jim.: Mrs Mayo of Naise?18:22
Mike in DC: Miss Mayo18:22
Rush: Jessop is cracking….18:23
angel & fox: Give EVERYBODY a pavilion & just call the case closed.18:23
angel & fox: LJ: 18:23
Rush: Got him!18:24
Louise: They shoulnd’t call these Perry mason moments, they should call them Chan moments.18:24
angel & fox: He wants to share her fate—the Women’s Wing!!18:24
Rush: Cue the crazed laugh…18:24
Rush: “Save for next case….”18:24
Mike in DC: <kids-yeah>18:24
angel & fox: I ALWAYS love the SPEECHES!!!18:24
Rush: Closing, exit music…18:24
angel & fox: *kids*18:24
Rush: Cut short, sadly!18:24
Matt: <yee-haw>18:24
Rush: So….18:24
Dona: I he in any other chan movies?18:24
Rush: THE END….18:25
angel & fox: Is THAT what passes for a Dirge, uke-style?18:25
Mike in DC: Once again, the Black Camel returns to his home.18:25
Rush: Who, Dona?18:25
angel & fox: What ANOTHER entertaining crime!18:25
Rush: Dwight Frye?18:25
Rush: Yes, Angel!18:25
Dona: Hashimo?18:25
Rush: Oh! No.18:25
Dona: my spelling is probably wrong18:25
Rush: This one was it.18:25
Dona: probably for the best18:25
Godwinshelley2: Have a great evening everyone18:25
Rush: Perhaps!18:25
Dona: Thank you Rush! This was great.18:26
Rush: Next week…”Charlie Chan in London.”18:26
hounder: thanks for another night of fun.18:26
Matt: Good night folks and have a great week.18:26
Rush: Thank YOU!18:26
angel & fox: I look forward till i can look backward—so enjoyed this latest get-together. Better than Scotch!! Gnite!!18:26
Mike in DC: See you all in London. Thanks for another great evening!18:26
Len Freeman: Mine is still playing….18:26
Dona: London is my favorite. Looking forward to it.18:26
Len Freeman: Hmmm18:26
Rush: There were 13 tonight!18:26
Library Jim.: Night all. 18:26
Rush: Good number!18:26
hounder: see you all next week, i hope18:26
Godwinshelley2: Yes and few gremlins18:26
Paul M: good turnout18:26
Louise: Lucky 1318:26
Rush: Hopefully so, Hounder!18:26
Rush: Please keep warm, everyone!18:26
hounder: what are we watching next week?18:26
Godwinshelley2: Don’t get snowed in everyone18:27
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Louise: Yes, stay warm.18:27
Rush: Be safe in those frigid temeratures!18:27
Godwinshelley2: And stay warm18:27
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Godwinshelley2: night18:27
Louise: nite18:27
Len Freeman: nite18:27
Dona: We are going to be in London Hounder18:27
Rush: Good night, and I thank ALL of you as always!18:27
Library Jim.: It’s a Miracle he Whipped up the murderer Mayo.18:27
Rush: “ouch!”18:27
Dona: ROTFLOL18:27
Rush: :)18:27
Dona: LJ18:27
hounder: thanks. see you then. and i’ll try to find time to practice a british accent18:27
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Godwinshelley2: Rush could you send me this chat – so I can pick up the Hawaii references again18:28
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Rush: I think I will use the keyboard smile more often! easier!18:28
Library Jim.: 18:28
Rush: GS, it will be archived and accessible here at his site if that works.18:28
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Godwinshelley2: ok – good to know18:29
Rush: Just click the link below!18:29
Library Jim.: Once again, see you next week.18:29
Rush: I will format it after we are done tonight.18:29
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Rush: Good night to those going out our door!18:29
Godwinshelley2: When I click my link below it only gives me my comments – not others18:29
Rush: Don’t forget your coats and scarves!18:29
Rush: It should lead to our collection of archived chats.18:30
Rush: There you will see the dates, so just click on the one you want to read through.18:30
Godwinshelley2: Oh below the white square – I see the link now18:30
Godwinshelley2: Thansk18:31
Rush: “Charlie Chan Chat Archive” link below.18:31
Rush: See it?18:31
Godwinshelley2: Very nice yes I can get to it18:31
Godwinshelley2: Thanks18:31
Rush: Very good!18:31
Rush: t should be ready for you within an hour.18:31
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Rush: So, good night and THANK YOU, GS, CD, MC, and Angel!18:32
Rush: I hope to see you ALL again next week!18:32
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Rush: Good night….take care…18:33
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