Chat Archive 12/26/2023

Feature: The Return of Charlie Chan

Chat Number: 1,235

Extras:
(Two scheduled: A Tribute to Ross Martin – Artemus Gordon on TV’s “The Wild Wild West” and Ross Martin: The Man Of 1001 Faces; neither viewed)

Participants:
Godwinshelley
Mike n Rachel in DC
Rush
tenman

12-26 18:28

Rush:

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12-26 18:57

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Hello Rush!

12-26 18:57

Rush:

Well!  Good evening, Mike/Rachel!!

12-26 18:58

Rush:

I was beginning to think I would be watching our film alone tonight!

How are you both tonight?

12-26 18:58

Mike n Rachel in DC:

We’re here…might be a bit in and out with family doings, but happy to be here

12-26 18:59

Rush:

Happy that you were able to be here!

12-26 18:59

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Doing very well…having a wonderful holiday time together (for a couple more days)!

Hope your holidays are festive!

12-26 18:59

Rush:

yes, thank uou!

12-26 19:00

Rush:

Our older daughter is here from california, and so our family is together thrhrough the New Year!

Wow1  Typos! Sorry!

12-26 19:00

Mike n Rachel in DC:

That’s great!  “Our” Rachel has to go back to Ann Arbor on Thursday.  She’s headed to the Rose Bowl with the band…

12-26 19:00

Rush:

Pecking fingers are faster than the brain!

12-26 19:01

Rush:

That’s right!  Will Rachel be in the parade with the band?

12-26 19:02

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Yes, both the parade and the Rose Bowl game.  Look for the woman band director with short hair if you get a glimpse of the band.  

12-26 19:02

Rush:

I will definitely be looking for her!

That’s GREAT!

12-26 19:03

Mike n Rachel in DC:

It should be quite an experience but it really cuts into our time together.  Boo.

12-26 19:03

Rush:

yes…the down side.

12-26 19:04

Mike n Rachel in DC:

We’ll make up for it in the next few weeks, though.

12-26 19:04

Rush:

Very good!

12-26 19:05

Rush:

Hopefully more will start dropping in.

I guess that this has been a very busy Holiday Season for most!

12-26 19:06

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Looks like a light holiday turn out (sort of normal, right?)…but hopefully we’ll have a bit more action.

12-26 19:07

Rush:

Yes…pretty normal, but this is sparcer than normal with 8 minutes to go!

This really recalls the “old days” here, when we were starting off!

12-26 19:07

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Gee.  And I took a bath today and everything! 

12-26 19:07

Rush:

Me too!

12-26 19:08

Rush:

6 1/2 minutes…

12-26 19:08

Mike n Rachel in DC:

My mom’s family was very large (14 kids!), so it was always difficult to have everyone together at holidays.  Grandma would often say, “Well, all the important people are here.”  

12-26 19:09

Rush:

YES!

I have heard that one before as well!

12-26 19:10

Rush:

With rachel that makes three!

5 minutes…

12-26 19:10

tenman:

Hola!

12-26 19:10

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Hello tenman!

12-26 19:11

Rush:

Tenman!

You make four of us thus far!

WELCOME!

12-26 19:11

tenman:

Hope everyone had a good christmas!

12-26 19:11

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Santa had a good visit here!

12-26 19:11

Rush:

We sure DID!  I hope that the same was true for you and yours!

12-26 19:12

Rush:

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Iff needed…there’s the link to tonight’s movie!

THREE MINUTES to go!

12-26 19:12

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Needed and appreciated…

12-26 19:12

Godwinshelley:

Welcome to the timeless space between Christmas and New Years

12-26 19:12

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Hello GS!

12-26 19:12

Godwinshelley:

Hello

12-26 19:13

Rush:

TWO minutes…

GS!

WELCOME!

12-26 19:13

Rush:

The crowd is growing!

90 seconds…

WELCOME!

12-26 19:13

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Almost 100% increase in two minutes!

12-26 19:13

Rush:

75 seconds…

12-26 19:13

Godwinshelley:

So did I increase the population by 33% or 25%

12-26 19:14

Rush:

60 seconds…

25% with Rachel!

12-26 19:14

Rush:

50…

40 seconds…

30 seconds…

25…

20…

12-26 19:14

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Never was too good at math  

12-26 19:14

Rush:

15…

12-26 19:15

Rush:

10…

5…

GO!!!

Universal Logo….

Here we go!

12-26 19:15

Godwinshelley:

I didn’t know if it was the beginning number or the end number that made the difference

12-26 19:15

Rush:

12-26 19:16

Rush:

Depends, i guess, GS!

12-26 19:16

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Looks like the Love Boat here

12-26 19:16

Godwinshelley:

I take it that it was the ending number – I was one of 4 so 25%

12-26 19:16

Rush:

The love grows thinner as time moves along in this one!

12-26 19:17

Godwinshelley:

This filming style reminds me of Kolchak – so a Chan/Kolchak mashup would be fun

12-26 19:17

Rush:

YES, GS!

12-26 19:17

Godwinshelley:

A chinese based monster – Kolchak would have to look for an expert –

12-26 19:18

Rush:

That would ad a tiuch of the supernatural for sure!

Yes.

12-26 19:18

Godwinshelley:

Leslie’s contact lenses bother me – too dark

12-26 19:18

Rush:

Title…

12-26 19:19

Rush:

AH!

It’s fun to see him in a dramatic role, though!

Credits….

12-26 19:19

Godwinshelley:

Nice that the Chan family actors get their own page of credits

12-26 19:20

Rush:

Yes!

Too bad this didn’t pan out to become a series.

12-26 19:20

Godwinshelley:

This first part is my favorite of this film

12-26 19:20

Rush:

maybe a one-per-month series?

YES!

I agree, GS!

12-26 19:21

Godwinshelley:

Like when they used to rotate detective stories on NBC

12-26 19:21

Rush:

Yes.

12-26 19:21

Mike n Rachel in DC:

This was a pilot for a potential series?

12-26 19:22

Rush:

Tenman and GS…we need to watch for Rachel in the Rose Parade!

12-26 19:22

Godwinshelley:

So no Mama Chan in this film

12-26 19:22

Rush:

She’s the band leader for Michigan.!

12-26 19:22

Godwinshelley:

Rachel – what a great honor – what part of the parade

12-26 19:22

tenman:

Spectrum commercial

12-26 19:23

Rush:

No, she isn’t, GS.

Yes, Tenman?

12-26 19:23

Mike n Rachel in DC:

The band is in position 44, right in the middle.

12-26 19:23

Godwinshelley:

Ahhhhh – he’s only 60 – I feel so old

12-26 19:23

Rush:

TYSM, Mike!

12-26 19:23

Godwinshelley:

What colors does the band wear for the event?

12-26 19:23

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Parade starts at 8 AM Pacific time, band steps off @ 8:45

12-26 19:24

Rush:

And, the networks always make sure to focus on the two opposing bands!

We will be watching here!

12-26 19:24

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Maize and Blue uniforms, GS.  With a big “M” on them.  

12-26 19:24

Godwinshelley:

So how does a DC gal get to lead the Michigan band

12-26 19:24

Rush:

I love Chan’s shirt.

12-26 19:24

Godwinshelley:

Maize – so yellow?

12-26 19:25

Rush:

Yes.

12-26 19:25

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Rachel will be on one side or the other of the band in a navy blue suit

12-26 19:25

Godwinshelley:

What kind of hats?  Our band had terrible hats like the British Busby tall furred hats ( ours was white)

12-26 19:25

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Yes.  Michigan colors are yellow and blue.  But they always say “maize”

12-26 19:25

Rush:

Take a shot of the screen with her in the parade, Mike, and share it with us next week, please!

12-26 19:26

Godwinshelley:

Yes please

12-26 19:26

Mike n Rachel in DC:

I’ll see if I can snag one for sure.  We might get some selfies to share too.

12-26 19:26

Godwinshelley:

Yes please

12-26 19:26

Rush:

Sadly, Ross Martin passed away far too soon.

12-26 19:26

Godwinshelley:

So we will know someone famous

12-26 19:27

Rush:

Yes we will!

12-26 19:29

Mike n Rachel in DC:

It’s a 5.5 mile parade, so Rach will have her exercise for the day.

12-26 19:29

Rush:

In all the years of watching the Rose Parade, I can say with certainty that I have never known anyone who was a participant!

Yes, she surely will, Mike!

12-26 19:29

Mike n Rachel in DC:

A Chan family first, Rush!

12-26 19:30

Rush:

These days a smoke alarm would sound in the plane’s restroom!

12-26 19:30

Mike n Rachel in DC:

These days the passengers would be in sweat suits and sneakers

12-26 19:31

Godwinshelley:

We’ve got you Pop

12-26 19:31

Rush:

The “pop” statements are consistant with parts of the Chan movie series!

12-26 19:31

Godwinshelley:

Yes that makes it charming

12-26 19:31

Rush:

Also, so is the absence of a Mrs. Chan, which was true for the final part of the movie series.

12-26 19:32

Rush:

Now…yank the beard off!

12-26 19:32

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Quite a get up on the doorman

12-26 19:33

Rush:

Too bad…but consistent.

YES!

12-26 19:33

Godwinshelley:

She would of been a superwoman with birthing all those children while keeping the house operating smoothly all without Charlie at home

12-26 19:33

tenman:

Another commercial

12-26 19:34

Rush:

Ross Martin knew a number of languages.  It seems he was adept at learning a new one.  We hear him use some Chainese in this one!

AH…sorry, TM!

12-26 19:34

Rush:

That’s one of the negatives to the online copies….sorry.

if you zip through the commercial. they are playing ping-pong.

12-26 19:35

Godwinshelley:

I remember that style of clothing with scarves

And turtlenecks

12-26 19:35

Rush:

yes!

12-26 19:35

tenman:

Can’t ‘zip’. Occasoinally can skip after a certain # of seconds

12-26 19:35

Rush:

This lady would be a real pain for Chan!

12-26 19:35

tenman:

Leslie is on the pone now

*phone

Now pingpong

12-26 19:36

Godwinshelley:

Mr Chan just walked into Leslie’s office

12-26 19:36

Rush:

Okay, TM.  if you need help returning to where we are, please ask for a “:scene check”!

12-26 19:36

Godwinshelley:

I might be a bit ahead I started after the Universal LOGO

12-26 19:37

Rush:

That’s okay, you are probably very close!  The logo lasted only a short while.

12-26 19:38

Rush:

Note how Ross Martin’s Chan is fluent in a natural way with English.

12-26 19:38

Rush:

His Chan was probably born in the U.S.

His “updated” charlie Chan.

12-26 19:39

Rush:

Again, I feel it’s too bad that this was not picked up as a TV drama.

12-26 19:40

Rush:

Just imagine having the likes of Keye Luke and Victor Sen Young appear in an episode or two!

12-26 19:41

Godwinshelley:

They could have been honored Uncles

12-26 19:41

Rush:

Benson Fong…Layne Tom, Jr…..

Yes, GS!

12-26 19:42

Godwinshelley:

James Hong

12-26 19:42

Rush:

Oh, what could have been….

Oh, well….

Oh, YES!  James Hong!

12-26 19:42

Godwinshelley:

Were any of the women still around – Iris

12-26 19:42

Rush:

Yes, they were.

The possibilites were all there!

12-26 19:43

Rush:

I think that Maryann Quon moved to China by that time.

Iris.

12-26 19:45

Rush:

In January, the film for the week following “Eran Trece” will be the recreation of “Charlie Chan’s Chance” which was an extra on one of the Fox DVD set’s discs.

12-26 19:45

Rush:

This will be the first time we will be sharing it!

And…it IS available online!

12-26 19:45

Godwinshelley:

Very Nice

12-26 19:46

Rush:

It was pretty well done.

12-26 19:46

Godwinshelley:

It will be a nice addition

12-26 19:47

Rush:

Hirachi had one of his “spells.”

(Hidrachi)

12-26 19:47

tenman:

“recreation” of Charlie Chan’s Chance?

12-26 19:47

Rush:

A good old typewriter!

12-26 19:48

Rush:

Yes, TM.

It’s the only way that we will be able to experience that “lost” chan film!

12-26 19:49

Rush:

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12-26 19:49

Godwinshelley:

So why do they have women screaming when finding a dead body?  Is that really how people react – maybe just pick up the phone?

12-26 19:49

Rush:

Depends on the person, GS!

12-26 19:50

Rush:

I think that today, as we are exposed in so many ways to so much death, that most people would not react with a scream.

12-26 19:51

Rush:

Also, it was a screen convention to have screams to add to the emotional effect!

12-26 19:52

tenman:

This movie gives me the itch to watch Murder By Death again!

12-26 19:52

Mike n Rachel in DC:

With limited special effects, they probably had to use “man made” effects

12-26 19:52

Rush:

AH!

Yes, Mike.

12-26 19:52

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Same here, tenman.  That is one of our FAVORITE movies.  A first date…

12-26 19:53

Rush:

Yes, TM!

12-26 19:53

Godwinshelley:

You are in luck.  Murder by Death will be playing on TCM on January 1 at 4:15 AM

12-26 19:54

Rush:

AH!

12-26 19:54

Godwinshelley:

So set your DVR

12-26 19:54

Rush:

I will DVR it!

Yes!

12-26 19:54

tenman:

If I could get my vcr working, I have it on tape!

12-26 19:54

Rush:

TYSM, GS1

12-26 19:54

Godwinshelley:

That was Eastern Standard Time

12-26 19:54

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Yes!

12-26 19:54

Rush:

One hour earlier here.

12-26 19:56

Rush:

That lady would not be Greek Orthodox as the way she crossed herself went the opposite direction.

12-26 19:57

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Rush = super sleuth!  As Dr. Watson famously said, “How on Earth did you know that?”

12-26 19:57

Rush:

Experience.

12-26 19:58

Rush:

AH!  The “romantic” sound of a ‘vintage” cash register!

12-26 20:00

Rush:

“Happiness is a Warm Clue”

The alternative title of this film.

12-26 20:00

Rush:

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12-26 20:01

Mike n Rachel in DC:

A deliberate Peanuts reference, no doubt…

12-26 20:02

Rush:

Well, in the latter half of the ’60s, there was something of a “Happiness is…” “fad.”

12-26 20:02

Rush:

Recall the Beatles’ song on the 1968 “White Album”…”Happiness is a Warm Gun.”

12-26 20:03

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Right…I think it came from the “Happiness is a warm puppy” Peanuts book.   https://www.amazon.com/Happiness-Warm-Puppy-Charles-Schulz/dp/160433245X

12-26 20:03

Rush:

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12-26 20:04

tenman:

But 9 out of 10 doctors smoke Lucky Strike!

12-26 20:04

Mike n Rachel in DC:

cough

12-26 20:05

Rush:

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12-26 20:05

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Bingo!

12-26 20:06

Rush:

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Etc….etc….etc….!

12-26 20:07

Rush:

I recall the “Happiness is the taste of Kent” cigarette ads on TV.  I think, actually, that those served to begin the whole “Happiness is…” thing!

Around 1964.

12-26 20:08

Godwinshelley:

Were we in the “Smiley Face” fad too?

12-26 20:08

Rush:

AH!

I think those started appearing about 1969.

12-26 20:09

Mike n Rachel in DC:

The Peanuts book is from 1962…

12-26 20:09

Rush:

And…yes to the above, Tenman!

“9 out of 10 doctors…” 

12-26 20:10

Mike n Rachel in DC:

But the Kent ads had a great jingle… “HAPPINESS IS (the taste of Kent), etc.”

12-26 20:10

Rush:

Mrs. HidrACHI,” yOU HAVE TO CARE TO KILL.”

OOPS!  Caps locked!

12-26 20:11

Rush:

Chan family photos!

Similar to what we saw in some of the Oland films.

12-26 20:12

Rush:

Ross Martin uses his Chinese!

12-26 20:13

Rush:

We see the early ’70s styles and colors in this one!

12-26 20:17

Rush:

The Hidrachi character was probably derived fro Aristotle Onassis, the Greek tycoon who married Jackie Kennedy.

12-26 20:17

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Right…another timely reference

12-26 20:17

Godwinshelley:

Nice swedish tang to Charlie’s phone call

12-26 20:17

Rush:

Ross Martin’s chan was speaking some Norwegian there, I believe,

12-26 20:18

Godwinshelley:

Now that is ok to scream – when getting shot at

12-26 20:18

Rush:

Yes, GS!

DEFINITELY, GS!!!

12-26 20:18

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Excellent scream, too

12-26 20:18

Rush:

I agree!

12-26 20:19

Mike n Rachel in DC:

not Una O’Connor level, mind you, but very solid 

12-26 20:19

Rush:

Remember, please, that next week’s Chat will be on TUESDAY, January 2.

“Behind That Curtain”

yes…with Boris Karloff!

12-26 20:20

Godwinshelley:

Pundee Pundee

12-26 20:20

Mike n Rachel in DC:

The cycle begins again!

12-26 20:20

Rush:

And, yes, with that as well, GS!

Yes, it does, Mike!

12-26 20:22

Rush:

That $5 scotch and soda in 1971 would be worth over $35 today!

12-26 20:24

Rush:

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12-26 20:25

Rush:

CLUE!

12-26 20:26

Rush:

Some friend!!!!

12-26 20:26

Mike n Rachel in DC:

He did mention “guilt” before…

12-26 20:27

Rush:

Is his face RED!!!

12-26 20:27

Mike n Rachel in DC:

At least the paint goes with his coat

12-26 20:28

Rush:

12-26 20:28

Rush:

These scenes were filmed in an actual office, judging by the echo.

Acoustics.

12-26 20:30

Rush:

Flashback….

12-26 20:34

Rush:

Nice clue there.

12-26 20:42

Rush:

Maybe he will be lucky and the disease skips a generation.

12-26 20:45

Rush:

A bittersweet ending…

12-26 20:45

Godwinshelley:

Nice he remembers his family with presents

12-26 20:45

Rush:

Yes!

12-26 20:45

Mike n Rachel in DC:

not unlike some earlier Chans….

12-26 20:45

Rush:

This seems to indicate another adventure was on the way!

yes, Mike!

12-26 20:46

Mike n Rachel in DC:

<kids-yeah>

12-26 20:46

Rush:

There it was!

12-26 20:46

Godwinshelley:

It would have been a nice addition to detective series

12-26 20:46

Rush:

the final film of our Chan year!

12-26 20:46

Mike n Rachel in DC:

What a great follow up to the “New Adventures” this would have been!

12-26 20:46

Rush:

Next week…TUESDAY…”Behind That Curtain”

Agreed, Mike!

Too bad.

12-26 20:47

Mike n Rachel in DC:

A great way to wind up the year.  Glad we could stop by as a duo to ring out 2023!

12-26 20:47

Rush:

A missed opportunity, IMHO!

12-26 20:47

Mike n Rachel in DC:

12-26 20:47

Rush:

Well…I thank you all so much for sharing the evening!

12-26 20:47

Godwinshelley:

So excited to know a famous celebrity

Stay safe everyone

12-26 20:47

Rush:

I hope that you will all have a VERY Happy New Year!

12-26 20:47

Mike n Rachel in DC:

A small but enthusiastic group.  Rachel blushes

12-26 20:48

Rush:

Yes.

12-26 20:48

Godwinshelley:

Night

12-26 20:48

tenman:

G’nite. WIll fininsh the movie solo now.

12-26 20:48

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Happy New Year everyone.  Mike will be back next Tuesday.  

Have a wonderful New Year tenman!

12-26 20:48

Rush:

Our BEST to Rachel and a safe journey to her and the band to Pasadena!

12-26 20:48

Mike n Rachel in DC:

Thanks, Rush.  See you next week.

12-26 20:48

Rush:

We will eagerly look for her during the parade!

Take care….

TYSM….

Good night!

A Happy New Year to ALL!

12-26 20:49

Rush:

May 2024 be a good and prosperous year…

Good night….

Take care…



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